An appeal to reason (essay)

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    An appeal to reason.

    There is a lingering and dangerous threat pervading humanity. It is a virus of unreason that is spread from generation to generation. It has hindered the intellectual progress of mankind since mankind began to start thinking. No one is born thinking objectively and rationally but everyone is born with the capacity too.

    In the paragraphs that follow I will be demonstrating examples of this burden of unreason by citing many examples in an attempt to thwart the advancement of it to anyone who reads this. For those who do read this and are “god-fearing” it is in your best interest to read this. It is imperative that you don’t knee-jerk while reading my arguments. You must allow yourselves to process what I’m saying and to think about them. I stress the word think to you because thinking to me, as a rationalist is different then thinking as pious believer. I will use a sardonic form of communication that will strengthen reason while also reflecting my hostility and outrage against many of the outcomes of unreason. Do not fear this mode of communication for it’s not to convey hate but too most effectively plea to reason. It (this form of communication) is out of love.
    Let me arbitrarily begin with the words “god-fearing” and the concept behind it. Why fear god? If it loves us all why fear it? If it created the traits of humanity it would be or would have been well aware of our capabilities and eventualities. So then, would it make sense that god would be angry when it’s creations behave the way he wanted them to? This is a think point. Think About it! Notice I use the word it rather then he or she. Despite the fact that god allegedly created us in it’s image but if it was a “he” where is the omnipotent she? These 2 questions present contradiction and there will be more in the following text.
    Let’s look at assumption and why in most cases religious people do not like to debate their views and why skeptics like to. In my experience and allegedly many other’s experiences religious people either won’t debate god or when they do, they become hesitant and hasten to “end” the conversation. I believe there is a common mistake religious people make when talking about god and origin. I believe they presume that the person presenting arguments cannot change their views. That based on the fact that they already know the antagonist doesn’t believe in god or that god exists but is not worthy of worship – that nothing they say about their faith will change anything. But of course while this may be true for some individuals I believe that by the very definition of skepticism it is implied that their being skeptical makes them believe anything that sounds reasonable. I speak to religious faithful here when I say, “friend you must know that my skepticism ultimately means that I too am seeking the truth.” Therefore continue to talk to me, and one or both of us will be that much closer to the truth by the exchange of ideas. This brings us to the next contradiction.
    Reason is misunderstood by many pious faithful. It is a mistake to feel as though your faith is beyond logic and reason and not based on it and thus not “worth” trying to argue for because you feel faith is not based on reason and therefore impossible to argue reasonably the way you perceive your opponent will argue. Again this feeling is a mistake. For knowledge is comprised of both posteriori and the priori. Which means reason presides over both these forms of knowledge. In other words your faith is based on priori reason and thus can those priori reasons be debated. Trust me, as a skeptic and non- believer I do want to believe in god - the all-knowing all loving entity. Unfortunately if god does or did exist it is not beneficent based on priori reason.
    I present now those priori arguments that lead people to worship, and believe that god exists or did exist.
    1. Some animals including us cry. Preceded and followed by feelings of sadness and/or despair.
    2. We perceive something as being beautiful or not rather then said thing just being a thing or a concept. Why is it beautiful? This feeling coupled with the help of dogma passed from generation to generation leads one to believe we feel the presence of god
    3. When one is made to ponder origin since everything we see and know of is among other things, determined by causality (except god,) we infer that the universe began with a cause. Further, when we then ponder what that cause might have been we realize that we are so very far from every being able to duplicate the cause of the universe and everything in it that we infer (I hesitate to say “jump to the conclusion”) that some force must have created it. But how far are we?
    4. Upon further inference we perceive that because love exists that force must be loving.

    These are only some of the priori arguments supporting belief that god exists or existed and is all loving. Now I will present those priori arguments that logically disprove god or that if god exists or existed – it’s far from all loving. Please give them the same consideration as the in-favor-of evidence.

    1. Like god created art and beauty I can come and destroy that art (while laughing)
    2. Like god created pleasure I can torture you to the point where you are literally cursing at god.
    3. Like the feeling of pride and joy you feel for your son or daughter saying his/her first word god gave me the free will to hand cuff them and rape them while they are screaming in agony in a room where no one except me and the little boy/girl are present. Excuse me here but for effect I hasten to add that if I decide to kidnap them then I can repeat this act every night. I can even extend it to years of daily rape if I take care to never let them escape and never let anyone hear them or know that it is taking place.
    4. Like I can create a beautiful piece of poetry or painting from my imagination that deeply touches you, so too could they who wrote the bible.
    5. Like war between humans that has took place since recorded history culminating in 2 world wars, so to can the next epoch witness all worlds and all intelligence go to war in a universal war leaving no life left in the universe. Much like a global nuclear holocaust leaving the earth uninhabitable.
    6. I am an inventor. I have invented many things. One day I make a new invention that is made (or has a certain likelihood at least,) to destroy all of my other creations including itself. Why would I do that?
    7. God must have known we would eventually leave earth (which we have). That we would discover many billions of planets orbiting other stars. He would have known that ultimately we would encounter many other inhabitants of other planets yet gives us no protocol or even references them? All aspects of life on this planet are preached upon but nothing in regards to the other life put there? Are we supposed to evangelize them? Like he says were supposed to do to humans? This is just one isolated priori argument but if we confine ourselves to just this one alone and ask what seems more likely that god was telling the authors what to write? Or man did not know of other worlds and other life Which is why there’s no mention of them...

    Looking at all this now objectively I think to myself there must be 3 possible answers regarding a creator entity but only 1 may be correct.

    1. God does not and never did exist
    2. God existed once at the onset but only set the parameters of its creation.
    3. God pervades and presides over everything. All is one and one is god – but he is one twisted reprehensible malevolent bastard. Unworthy of worship.

    I could show you 1 video clip 2 minutes long and after words be so angry and hurt that you would find yourself looking up towards the sky trying to find a face so that you can spit in it. Consider this: If you created an ultimate chart that on one side had all the positive beauty of life represented by examples (i.e. music, birth, laughter etc.) And on the other all the negative wrongs of life (war, murder, rape, torture, genocide etc) what kind of picture would it paint our species? Benign? Malignant? Would those good things out weigh the horrible? or vice versa? Though you may not have been personal witness or exposed in some way to the stuff in the negative column trust me - you do not want to. So make your decision after contemplating if you were invisible sitting in a room watching a two-year old infant screaming in agony while being brutally raped. For most of all of us have not witnessed this but it happens everyday. Does music redeem god the creator of these things? Does laughter? Does love? No it certainly does NOT redeem that sick bastard. The last horrible description happens on a daily basis while god does what? Watch it? We don’t know do we. But we do know one thing it’s not doing anything to stop it. IT CREATED IT. Or it’s not all knowing is it? Too say the least - not all loving. What is it then god? You made the most horribly vile, disgusting atrocities and inserted free will to see if we would choose not to do them? If you’re all knowing then why is it that I have a better idea? Just make life all pleasant. Subtract the possibility that I will have to go to the morgue to identify my horribly dismembered 8-year-old girl?
    So choose 1, 2, or 3 and remember out of all the possible explanations only one of them is true. 2 or 3 or 10 explanations cannot be all right at the same time.
    It indeed becomes a battle for the children doesn’t it? A battle to save them from being brainwashed into unreason. To be resolute in purpose to allow them to believe not that god is this or that but to have the option to think rationally The paradoxical hypocrisy of learning a child to not think for themselves despite the fact that that which they teach them to worship made them think for themselves is tacitly wrong. Indeed religion becomes an insult to reason. Fraught with hypocrisy and barbarism and laced with common sense. Things like “do not kill “ as though were not smart enough to know that that is wrong and we need a book to tell us or god or some man with a pencil. And what religion and god allows (if it exists) on a daily basis an outrage. You begin to see why it’s not so illogical to discard the belief that some entity is watching all of these things with the power to stop it but doesn’t? That the being you worship at best created us with the potential to do these things and at worst created it purposefully? Rationally one begins to see that if god exists to worship it is to worship malice. It might not be malice to it but it sure as hell is malice to us. And no - my brethren and me do not worship malice.
    On Satan. Devout followers have had to learn to pass the hot potato and chase a wild goat due to The luminesence of truth and reason. For example no one wants to be looked at as evil so if you who are reading this are a devout faithful follower after reading the last paragraph you would have to pass the hot potato to Satan as being the cause of all this not god. And you would have to chase a wild goat if I said to you that god created Satan and thus is malevolent. And rather then face that you have to say that Satan works independently of god and in doing so you create contradiction. This is a clear sign of unreason, which is ultimately unworthy of reason and not noble. Religion and it’s defenders have been chasing a goat for so far now that the wake they have produced of contradiction is mountingly enormous that it is now a title wave of unreason that a person would have to be blind not to see. What kind of god places a child (mankind) in a dark room (existence,) with a glowing object (temptation) waiting to see if the child goes to explore it and then sends the child to hell for not saying sorry? (Like what happened to every “sinful” soul before Jesus came and saved it from happening?)
    What evidence is there that god is anything but contradiction, hypocrisy and malice? Don’t pass the potato. Stop chasing a goat and just try to arrive at a logical reason. Is god worthy of worship despite all this contradiction, malice, and hypocrisy merely because it created us? No it isn’t. Because from the time from sperm until death life is a constant struggle at all ends. Even if everything you need and want is handed to you throughout life and all you are required to do is sleep eat and go to the bathroom you will still struggle to do these things soon enough because of atrophy of muscle. Would you be just passing the hot potato again if you said “maybe it isn’t perfect and every time it makes a new universe or creation it’s gets better and better at preventing pain” Ahh so that which has the power to create this universe and set every minuscule parameter doesn’t have the power to omit that which causes pain? Then comes the goat chase again when the next reply is “it wanted there to be pain and suffering.” If that’s true then it is malevolent and it is not only illogical to worship that which is malevolent but insulting to reason.
    On tolerance. Tolerance is a concept epiphenomenal in it’s nature to religion. In fact tolerance was and is perpetuated by religious people out of necessity. For if strict religious followers followed their scripture to the letter there would be no one left to read from scripture. “Love your neighbor” and “thou shall not worship a false god” are not reconcilable. Tolerance is needed by those who are religious not those who think rationally. Rationally it is not logical to tolerate the perpetuation of unreason and ignorance that leads to war and killing. Those who in the midst of their beliefs are driven to extremes in the name of god are inherently illogical. Said people can not be touched by reason. If they can not be touched by reason then they can only be left to their own outcomes I can tell you that I am not going to spend my money on housing them in prison. It is wise to let those who strife - strife.
    Question: You have heated a burrito in the microwave and it says “heat on high for 2 ½ minutes and then flip and heat for another 2 ½ minutes but upon flipping it you feel the burrito and it already is hot all throughout - the cheese is melted on the inside. Do you heat the burrito for another 2 ½ minutes because that what the command…I mean that’s what the instructions are? Do I need to go on with this analogy? Of course not. It would literally be dumb to because then you would burn it. Guess what. You have just thought for yourself! But if the heating instructions were one of the Ten Commandments then guess what your off to hellfire and now your skin is melting off…not unlike that melted burrito cheese. Unless of course you went into a little kiosk and started crying to a guy in a red drape that you’re sorry, then you’d be back on the road to heaven! Tell me why didn’t you just prey directly to god? Does he not have the power to save you like the guy in the purple suit does? Is god to far away? Is the way I’m presenting these analogies offensive? Can you sense that the author of the words you’re reading right now is angry? You’re dam right I am. Is my anger illogical? Can you determine whether it is or is not without knowing the cause of my anger? Hopefully from this essay it will be apparent why I am angry. I watched my 7 year old innocent daughter raped in front of me and I was powerless to do anything while she was crying “daddy, daddy” because I was tied up. Tell me Chris the priest or David the rabbi what was god doing when this was occurring? What did my daughter juniper do to deserve god’s wrath? God works in mysterious ways? That’s a pretty dam hot potato isn’t it? The other ones were not quite as bad but this potato - I didn’t even touch it. I refused to. I just kept silent like the good little indoctrinated boy that I am and let someone else catch it. Now it’s the day after and we are not going to comment about it. Were too indoctrinated to question what our parents told us about god. After all we sure don’t want to invoke the wrath of god that our parent’s told us about.
    If you are still reading I salute you. I know the end of the last paragraph was hard, but in my defense I did warn you that I was going to employ a certain form of sardonic communication to best convey the message. Through inference I’m informed that at this point only atheists and non-devout religious people are still reading this. And that’s the problem. Nothing can be done to save the faithful from their own hellfire. At some point all of them read and read until they came across the sentence that told them “this person is going to hell and so will I if I keep reading” ß this last sentence is an example of why they must be allowed to destroy each other in the “name” of their god. Nothing can be done to appeal to their reason. Their parents saw to it that their reason was vanquished a long time ago. This last use of the word reason refers to wanting what you believe to be reasonable
    More illogic is on the horizon. As I was writing this I paused for a smoke break and went on to the patio and throughout most of my cigarette I heard the cries of a hungry baby bird. It was 10 feet away from me crying in hunger for some food. Why is it that I can walk over there and end this bird’s suffering by dropping some food in its mouth but “god” cannot? Is it observing my behavior to see what I would do? Did it occur to god that maybe I will wait (because it granted me this option) to see what god does if I decide to not drop food into its mouth? Indeed I have now challenged god to see who loves the bird more. But alas I already know the outcome if the mommy bird or I do not drop food into it’s crying mouth god will let this little creation die. I don’t know about you but I call that one hell of a loving god. If you are still reading and haven’t “gotten” it by now then theirs no point in me going on as I am to discussed to keep writing on this subject. Thank you for reading.
     
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    Makes you think eh?
     
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    Makes my eyes hurt, actually. Click edit and fix the formatting, it's not really very readable.
     
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    Very good read. Presents some valid points :). Then again common sense isn't all that common ;)
     
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    More people may read it if you break some of the bigger chunks down into paragraphs. It is very hard to read large blocks of text like that.
     
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    Unfortunately i Cannot edit it. It will not let me. I made this essay in word and pasted it here. Things like italics, underlines, indents did not transfer over to well
     
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