American Student goes to Palestine to help only to find out the truth

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  1. Plazimot

    Plazimot Peon

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    #1301
    Ok now lets say there is an Arab person who thinks like you,lets just switch sides for a minute:

    The Jews decided to invade Palestine and murder or make into refugee everyone there. My sympathy level for them is correspondingly minimal.

    Now that guy would sound like Muslim extremist,right?I can agree,but what your words sound like than?
     
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  2. slinky

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    #1302
    But the above never happened and is pure fiction. Same with the "Palestine" that you refer to and which was a creation of Yassir Arafat and look up what it referred to (see also Jews). So yes, that person would sound like a Muslim extremist if he told everyone that this is exactly what happened and nothing more.

    Every Palestinian is not a "tent living refugee." Plenty live in apartments in Israel.

    In the Old City, the Wall (or Second Temple) has been standing there for centuries. Who built it? So exactly who is it that invaded whose country?

    I guess "Muslim extremist" doesn't apply to the dozens of suicide bombers to blow up any kind of person in this "Palestine" - even civilians or tourists eating in a restaurant - just to make a point.
     
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  3. Plazimot

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    #1303
    This never happened either
     
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    #1304
    So Yassir Arafat invented "Palestine"? :rolleyes:
    How about a book about same Palestine written in 1695.? Somehow I doubt Arafat was born before 1695. to invent "Palestine" as you claim.
    http://www.think-israel.org/goldreich.palestina.html
    But let's put that aside and let's talk about "USA". Who invented "USA"? As far as I know for centuries there was other nations living in America until someone came, slaughter almost everyone and "invented" "USA".
    Or do you wanna say that one rules apply to Jews and diferent rules for everyone else?
     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Ah, yes... Nothing gets by you! :rolleyes:
     
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    smeghead Active Member

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    #1306
    It's pretty disgusting that you use those that died in the holocaust to gain sympathy and use them to justify the actions of the Israeli government. No matter how all this started as long as Israel keep building illegal settlements, dropping bombs on civilians, building their appartheid wall, keep palestinians as prisoners in their own home and as long as Palestine keep firing rockets into Israel, bombing and shooting innocent civilians this conflict will continue. It's no one persons fault, BOTH sides have to stop and you twats mudslinging false stories from your propagandist of choice back and forth on this forum won't change that.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #1307
    It can be the other way around too. Don't forget that Nazi were winning the war in the beginning too and were happy with conquering different countries. What is going to happen in a future when USA is just another second rate power and can not support Israel in the same way or if U.S. politicans start to get used to Arab money and start supporting them instead of Israel? ;)
     
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  8. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1308
    I think you have confused Palestinians with Israelis. :D
     
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  9. slinky

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    #1309
    What's your point? Nobody claims it did. My point was that your assumption was based on a falsehood and thank you for confirming it.

    Nobody is using the Holocaust as sympathy and was used as the connection between El Mufti and Hitler, which may have escaped you. What is disgusting is the inability to read and readiness to convict. As was repeated 10,000 times, there are more sides than just the Israelis v. the Palestinians that need to talk. If you want to talk about illegalities, you must talk about the billions of dollars and over 1 million Jews who were expelled from all the neighboring Arab Nations and for centuries and to this day, do not even have the rights that the Palestinians have in Israel! WHAT HAVE YOU PROPOSED TO DO FOR THEM? Absolutely zero. How about the fairness for Christians and Jews in the adjoining countries you are asking for on behalf of the Palestinians? Nada.

    That said, the only group deliberately targeting innocent, unarmed civilians is an Arab/Palestinian terrorist group called Hamas which literally means violence. They make it no secret that their mission is to never have peace but the destruction of Israel. READ THEIR CHARTER. Read the PLO charter. Read Arafat's words about the "Liberation" of the people and what needs to be done.

    Thank you for admitting this. Yes, the historical region called "Palestine" has been inhabited with Jews too throughout history. The current version of Palestine is a complete fabrication and the result of Arafat's PR campaign. Thank you for confirming its long history that is at great variance.

    Now if the Arab Nations wouldn't have treated Christians and Jews as dhimmi, forced conversions and expelled them, the "Palestinian" Arabs and Jews wouldn't have any of the problems they have today. As it stands, only Muslims have rights throughout the Middle East. All of you can yell and scream about rights of refugees when the real refugees are the non-Muslims who have no other place to live with equal rights but Israel.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #1310
    Really. :rolleyes:

    Reading your posts and other supporters of Israel government, it seem holocaust was the best thing that could ever happened for you. The one and only answer to any question about wrong doings from Israel side. :rolleyes:
     
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  11. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1311
    Don't worry about GW, he is still in "Holocaust Denial"....
     
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  12. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #1312
    That is a sick and disgusting mischaracterization of the entire situation.
     
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    #1313
    Muhammad is dead too, but he's still causing problems. :p
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #1314
    Sadly though, it is quite indicative of what is in the minds of a great many people out there.
     
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    #1315
    One of the most disgusting, insensitive comments I've ever heard uttered. It speaks volumes about your lack of perspective and consideration for anyone else other than yourself. Your animosity towards Jews is manifestly clear.

    Go tell someone else that the best thing that ever happened to them is having most of their family being brutally murdered... and making light of it.
     
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  16. Mia

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    #1316
    Oh, I have heard him say much worse... Honestly, I have pretty much come to expect it.
     
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    #1317
    I was quoting Will,If you haven't understood the point I can elaborate it to you,all you need is to ask ;)

    And you just keep forgetting to mention that there are also Palestinians who are Christian :eek:
     
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    #1318
    NP. I'm not sure of your point with the latter statement. There are Palestinians who also live in a 5 bedroom apartment in Jerusalem too. But there are a significant group of Palestinians and Fundamentalist Arabs who are part of this group called Hamas and they and other similar groups (1) are sending in rockets and suicide bombers to kill any innocent civilian because (2) they simply want to destroy Israel and cost is of no concern. The killing will never stop until Israel is destroyed. That's of serious concern and that's the point. Until these groups are destroyed, peace can never be a serious discussion unfortunately.
     
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    #1319
    Some Jews are too.. ;)
     
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    #1320
    You are the one who suggests it in your posts, not him. Without the Holocaust there would be no reason for Israel to exist.
     
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