American Soldier Death down 60% since Buildup

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  1. iatbm

    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #21
    Emm OK :rolleyes:

    So Germans had over 50 000 000 soldiers in France during WW2 or France was not occupied at all ? :D

    Some people like you just don't get it hehe
     
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    cormac Peon

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    #22
    Let me guess d16 you don't like facing facts even if they are negative? Very strange for someone who is very pro war. On that note, how come your not in the army or fighting for the freedom of your country?

    People like you cant handle the reality of war and want to sweep the negative under the carpet.

    I wanted the troops home yesterday which includes my four relations who are based there. Whats your excuse?
     
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    #23
    Your chart shows that in march 07 allready more died as in march 06, and march is not over yet...
    And I'm just bent to post facts, I don't care if they are positive or negative. The security situation in Iraq is a worse a always, and maybe the GI's just stay more in their bases and send out just iraqi troops.
    Anyway it needs some fundamental changes, otherwise it will stay a mess down there. No matter how many more troops and money you pump inthere.
     
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    pizzaman Active Member

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    #24
    did you notice that when they entered sadr city there was no resistance and they couldn't find any arm cache and any of the sadr militia. what do you think is going on?
    also it seems to be a great reduction of shia on sunni attacks in bagdad
    do you think they are all gone to iran?
    it seems that they have decided to hide and let the coalition forces take care of the al qaida and the other sunni for them. once this is done then they would be in total control.
    we hope that they would be on our side when the dust is setteled but who really knows?
     
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  5. iatbm

    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #25
    He is pro-war but guess what would happen if tanks were around his house. He would sh*t his pants in 2 seconds. Not to say he didn't see not even M of Military service :D
     
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #26
    I posted already about this. What a stupid military tactics to announce offensive couple of days earlier. Each and every insurgent became civilian.

    Highly unprofessional from US Army... what the hell were they thinking ....
     
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  7. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #27
    France just gave up, they didn't even give germany a chance to fight...surprisingly, they are no different today...

    so now that I post from your biased website, its wrong...hmm...go look at my original post...I wasn't comparing March 07 to march 06. The original post was about the last two months...nice try though, keep spinning my facts to fit your agenda...

    and what facts would those be? The ones I presented? I am all for facts...for the record, I am not in the army or airforce due to bad vision and flat feet...but I did apply to the air force academy in Colorado Springs when I was in High School...funny, how you are easy to condemn that I am not in the military, and yet, you arn't either are you?

    What I can't handle is when people constantly refuse to look at the good job our troops are doing. They always want to bring up the negatives of war...if the US citizens were behind the US troops even half as much as they were during WWII, then this war would have been over months ago...instead we have less than half of the people that are for the war and behind the troops, and we have less than 5% of our resources that we are using to support them...take that to even 25%, and you will see a huge difference in troop and US morale, effort, and success...
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #28
    yes, I am pro military....I don't like to sit around and loathe about the negatives...if tanks were around my house, not sure what i would do...however, that would never happen in the south..you know SC is the only state that still has a state supported militia, right? Every good ol boy I know also owns a small arsenal...its a part of living in the south...
     
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #29
    What is positive in war ?

    You send kids to war with 19 years .... how do you expect good morale etc ...
    I knew you don't know nothing about army, military and war .... If you would send potent 30 years old men to war you would see the difference ;)

    But like I said it is military command fault. They go and announce offensive and let the enemy hide behind "civilian" clothes :confused:
    Where did they learn the tactics of war ???
     
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #30
    hehe you have small arsenal to feel secure and to be a MAN :D
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #31
    what is positive about war? well, for this war, terrorism is being destroyed...eventually there will be democracy rather than a dictatorship in the middle east...iraqi's (men and women) have more freedoms now than they ever have. Do you want me to go through other wars for you? I would be happy to, although since you claim to be a military expert I shouldn't have to, you know it all anyway, right?

    hehe, no, we have small arsenals to kill the food we eat (gotta love rednecks...btw, no matter what anyone says, squirrel does NOT taste like chicken...actually chicken tastes like rabbit), and to go to the practice range...love shooting those orange clays...its a sport, in case you didn't know...
     
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    #32
    Facts you presented? Your not specifically a reliable source for information now are you? Have you been to Iraq yet?

    You know being disabled with bad vision and flat feet has likely saved your life. What about private US security firms in Iraq? Let me guess, they also turned you away due to your disabilities?

    Now why the heck would I join the U.S. army when I live in Ireland? Just an FYI, I served two years in the Irish defense forces but only because they are a peace keeping force. I don’t believe in war and I certainly don’t believe in occupation. Our country is not in Iraq nor will it probably be, it’s bad enough that our Gov allow CIA flights to/from Iraq into Ireland.

    You can’t stand people who refuse to look at the good jobs? Sorry mate but you are barking up the wrong side of the tree on that one. What I dislike is a person like you who IS closed minded, wear blinkers and believe everyone is a terrorist supporter unless they support the Bush agenda.
     
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  13. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #33
    It appears some people don't like facing facts even if they are positive.
     
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #34
    hahahahaha terrorism is being destroyed. How you forget things oh my god :D

    There was no terrorism in Iraq and Iraq was pretty much secular country. Saddam was no religious leader. First learn something about the country and you should not only watch today's events. If you want to talk about something you have to know a little background yourself and don't just present us what news says! We all see that on our TV also !
    There were no terrorists in Iraq and cause of war was "WMD" if I remeber correctly. You forgot that didn't you .... then it came out all that Al-Kaida stuff etc .... give me a break and let me repeat once more for your not-informed head - Iraq was secular country and so was Iraq's leader Saddam. An please don't put now things into my mouth that I support terrorists like you are brainwashed to do ....


    You must be joking ? Iraqis have more freedom now than they had earlier ??? It is war man, how war can have more freedom than peace ?

    Like I said get some background of Iraq checked since that was one beautiful country with the highest percentage of educated people in the world ! Guess you did not know that huh. Yea what to expect from you ... knowledge ? It is a joke hehe

    Guess I am expert since unlike you I went to war :(
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #35
    War doesn't last forever. If we took away the promise of 72 virgins, muslims wouldn't be killing muslims in Iraq right now. Iraq is the perfect example of the lack of peace in islam.

    You'd be surprised at how many people would give the credit of terrorists away to others. Arent' you glad you don't do that, iatbm?
     
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    #36
    what a childish comment.
    you really do not want to face the reality at all, are you!?
     
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #37
    I think this is not 72 virgins but pure hate and war for power .... It is just who will get who ....

    I perfectly know who terrorists are and terrorists are for me all people who go and kill civilian population for doesn't matter what reason ... here I include regular soldiers, insurgents and all kind of "civilians" ....
     
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  18. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #38
    Aww, little pizzaboy, are you getting upset that gtech faces the reality that the surge is responsible for 60% less deaths?

    I know, good news is bad news for you :rolleyes:

    How about breaking out some of the nazi propaganda you seem to take delight in?
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #39
    I should start reading palms too :D

    The furious are out in droves!
     
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    #40
    It would be even more successful if they didn't announce offensive.
    The death toll was rising because 20 000 soldiers went home, either dead or injured. They could not handle it anymore so yes surge is responsible for less deaths. If only US command would not be soooo stupid with their tactics ....
     
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