American Muslims react to Pope's comments

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  1. SyedTan

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    #81
    Membela Islam

    * Posted by menj
    * July 17, 2006


    A website that aims to educate the Muslim public on the implications of a case by an apostate (thank you to menj fan for informing me about it).

    I've always had a hardline stance against apostates from Islam and I will never compromise on the issue of apostasy. I have written a book about it, too. Which reminds me, I should have podcasted on apostasy but have yet to do so. I will record the podcast soon, inshaallah.

    BUNUH ORANG MURTAD!

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    Oh, very nice… inciting murder now, are we? How very righteous of you. May God have mercy on you.

    [MENJ: Only fellow apostates will defend another fellow apostate.]

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    Free & Fair
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    July 17, 2006 at 8:50 pm

    Hey , are you serious ?

    By what the Perak mullah guy saying , you will have to kill 250,000 apostates.

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    July 17, 2006 at 11:40 pm

    Whee!!!!
     
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  2. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #82
    And what is the Biblical justification for this? After all did not your laws say thus:

    “Pour out thy wrath upon the heathen that have not known thee, and upon the kingdoms that have not called upon thy name.” [Psalms 79:6]

    Well?

    - MENJ
     
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  3. SyedTan

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    #83
    Still spinning MENJ?

    Here, let me help you:

    a) I believe in execution of apostates

    b) I don't believe in execution of apostates

    c) What's an apostate?

    Just choose one of the above, boyo.
     
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  4. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #84
    It's not ours to judge and execute.
    I said "probably" on the above, and I disagree with her comment as I saw it written.
    You are not a judge either.
    Stop trying this nonesense, you trying to act as a judge, - with what authority?
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #85
    Old testament - when will you ever learn?
     
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  6. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #86
    Well it is either you accept or reject the Old Testament, chum. Which is it?

    - MENJ
     
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    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #87
    I never claimed to be a "judge" or authority in Christian law.

    But I find it amusing that you claim to be a believing Christian, and yet fail to implement the bulk of laws as contained within the Bible. That does not sound like a true Christian to me. A true Christian would implement God's Laws to the fullest -- without exception, and without bias.

    So how can you claim to be "Christian" when you don't even follow the Bible's laws? Its just as good as chucking it away and turning atheist :D

    - MENJ
     
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    #88
    however Our Lord sent his son to teach us how he really wants us to belive, these words are in the New Testament and it is how most Christians, Catholics etc try to live their lives.
     
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    #89
    The old testament I accept insofar that it explains the need of the new one in which we're now until the return of Jesus Christ.
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #90
    Well said red fairy! - thanks
     
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    #91
    Menj you are disturbing,go play your cyber games and stop telling us your extremist views.
     
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  12. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #92
    Why, so nice of you to join in.

    As a Jew, you believe in the TaNaKh as G-d's inspired word to Moses. Why don't you inform your Christian brethren whether one should take the Tanakh's law and implement it, or should they abandon's G-d's word? Go on, tell us.

    - MENJ
     
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    #93
    Thanks menj for the cold reception :rolleyes:
    The christians believe in what they think-freedom of choice buddy.
     
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    #94
    Well your man-god also told you the following:

    Matthew 5:17-19: "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

    How are we to understand this command if you are supposed to abandon the Old Testament? I think a lot of Christians are going to hell for not implementing the laws of the Tanakh :D

    - MENJ
     
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    #95
    You tipped your tongue in satans acid, didn't you?
     
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    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #96
    You are not answering the question, boy :D You do not have any problems with people who deny the words of Moses' God as in the Torah/Tanakh/Chumash?

    - MENJ
     
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    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #97
    Still not answering the question? Well, I am waiting. I think we are all civilised people here, no need to resort to name-callings :D

    - MENJ
     
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    #98
    I reject her comment not because I believe in the Bible, but I believe in the words of the Holy Quran. You forget that we regard Jesus (P) as our prophet too.

    - MENJ
     
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    #99
    oi oi pal-the names graf not "boy",if the athiests want to belive in there stuff-not for me to judge (thats g-d's job,not yours or mine)
     
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    #100
    Christian don't deny the words of Moses, because its all implemented in the law of love.

    Was that kosher?
     
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