In the midst of this terrible recession and after 6 years of war, over 4,000 American soldiers dying, $1 trillion in American expenditures....Iraq is primarily shunning American companies as it works to attract investment from around the world. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/13/business/global/13iraqbiz.html Turkey is now seeing about $10 billion in exports to Iraq and expecting it to grow....while the US has about $ 2 billion with little growth expectations. Essentially the Right Wing extremist Republicans waged war, saw over 4,000 American soldiers die in this war, had the nation spend over $1 trillion raising debt every year, year after year...creating a built in debt element into the American govt......and the Iraqis are shunning us going forward. Talk about how an extremist Right Wing Republican government can absolutely screw up everything ; stress the military, get 4,000+ soldiers killed, waste over $1 trillion and grow debt like a fiend....and get the rest of the world to hate us...and shun our economic efforts. Nice going Right Wing. Its not enough you had us engage in 2 wars that are still ongoing, created incredible amounts of debt, got 4,000+ soldiers killed in an unneccessary war....you have the rest of the economic world shunning us...when we need the business. Yep Right Wing = Miserable Failure
If my opinion as non-American counts, Afghanistan war was right and a moral duty. Iraq war was wrong, very wrong. I really can't see the real intentions of those who forged the evidence of the Iraqi "weapons of mass destruction". I told everybody I know that you don't have to be so astute of the middle to know that Saddam ain't got shit in the military warehouses. At least, not more than the shit he had instead of a brain. Only very minimal knowledge of the middle east was enough to know that.... Maybe the real goal of the Iraq war was not oil, but to place a base next to Iran: which is a threat to the western world as a whole, and signalize to them: "you do not fuck with the Americans". But having said that, the Americans can not even imagine the joy I had when I saw him hanged. A happy day for all of humanity. Maybe at the end it will work for the best for the people of Iraq. Problem is that the Iraqi people are muslims + Arabs, two conditions that statistically reduced the possibility that they will be able to live among each other with tolerance respect and prosperity as a country to almost zero.......
Well it's hardly surprising that a country whom is attacked is not giving the attacker money Bush has got to have been the worst president, easily.
@ChaosTrivia http://www.antiwar.com/porter/?articleid=11520 Around 2004,2005 info came out that top Israeli officials warned the US to not bother with Iraq. In 2007 this article and others referencing what had been a secret source came out. The conservative republicans who populated the Bush administration had been calling for an attack on Iraq since the late 1990's. They got there way. Long term costs to the US and West are immense. Iraq is migrating to becoming a puppet state of Iran. The problems for the Middle East, the West, the United States are that while Saddam was in power he was a problem for Iran. Once overturned it has enabled Iran to grow stronger and more dangerous. The US going to war against Iraq might prove itself to be one of the stupidest decisions ever.
Well.. you know... I wouldn't consider antiwar.com to be a "credible source" (some of the quotes of Israeli officials there are REALLY out of context)... but yea: the war on Iraq made little sense to me back then, and now when I see the obvious outcome (civil war and chaos) and the even worse, not so obvious, outcome: the Irani nuclear bomb, I know I was right. At least some kind of comfort.
Bush should have set up no bid contracts locking in U.S. oil companies to pump oil out of Iraq for the foreseeable future. Then Earlpearl would be happier...
ChaosTrivia: That piece of news hit quite a number of sources including major newspapers. I clicked on one source, but don't focus on the source, focus on the information. I'm pretty sure I saw some obscure reference to that back in 2004 or 2005 without a person referenced. The 2007 article gave greater substance to the initial rumors.
Well that's too bad, but I was against us invasion of iraq too. But bush didn't listen to me. He should be hanged for crimes against humanity as well as saddam.
Despite the religious, terror, liberty, and freedom wraps, we all know that US launch wars for economic reasons, even those who deny it, will expose their worries as earlperl did when the war did not achieve its main undeclared reasons, this is good, Iraqis should not fight only the declared reasons, but should concentrate on the main undeclared reasons, by not giving the aggressors what they wanted, and this should spread not only in Iraq, but in all Arabian and Muslim countries, to the individual level by boycotting any American product or service they can boycott and find a alternative for it.
... he said... as he typed his post on a computer designed in the US using an op system developed in the US while responding to a post in a US based forum. I'm sure all you rugged individualists can get by making an income on the internet while boycotting those evil US entities like Yahoo, Google, Paypal, etc. I applaud your exit from using anything at all that originated here. Good for you. Please, do boycott all things US, we'll reserve your spot here until Jordan develops parallel technology.
why do you have any problem? obviously usa attacked iraq give 'Freedom' to the poor people from a tyrant dictator .. or were there any ulterior motives
Good now you can stop using a computer, the internet, a phone, a cell phone, drink unfilterd water, no AC / heating for you, etc. Maybe we'll not run out of IP addresses with you pecker heads.
I can't wait for these guys to have to go back to communicating by Post-it Note. Oh, wait... that was developed by 3-M. Hmmm... maybe jungle drums? Please Imad... don't just talk... do it. Make good on your empty bluster by starting with a boycott of THIS US based service.
wow, your fantastic replies encouraged me to post more details about this point, of course, some pushed by prejudice or maybe worries about their economics, will rush and say "then stop using internet, stop using AC ...etc" in a try to discourage anybody who thinks that this might be effective, this proves that it is effective else they would not be so worried to a degree that made them try to discourage when this point was mentioned, they might be pushed by their prejudice, and felt the need that they want to brag, by saying internet is a US product, or invention, and so on, that's fine, you can brag and feel pride or prejudice, but others can feel free to boycott whatever they think they can find an alternative for it, if you can't find an alternative for example for a US made AC for any reason, then that's OK, do not feel bad about it and give up by deciding to ignore the whole thing, you still might be able to find an alternative for a US made PC, or US made soft drink, or US made cigarettes..etc the point is not to completely stop using any US service or product, but to stop using anything US that you can find an alternative for it, this will have a significant effect in limiting US ability to launch new wars and plant more hate around the world, and for sure, it will send a message to aggressors, that trade can no longer be done or forced by wars. next time when you visit a mall or a supermarket, look for the origin country of the item you are about to buy, say your word, and it will be heard, even if it was non-verbal, and was not dribbing of prejudice and negative emotions like some words made by others, do not hate US, and do not boycott US because you hate US, but boycott US because you will refuse to participate in funding current wars, and maybe future wars.
Imad, you forgot something. http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1563572 in this thread, you forgot to post more nice pictures of Gaza churches and more phone calls with Fadi Bandali Bangali to "prove" how Hamas actually love the Christians of Gaza to counterweight the murder and persecution of the Christians in Gaza from numerous various sources which I posted and in countless events. Many events go unreported too, naturally. or you can agree that you live in أل٠ليلة وليلة , and we forget all about it No justice, No peace, remember? the Christians of Gaza are waiting for Imad to say something that is justice and is related with the truth, for once.
Make you a deal Imad. You brought the subject up... so stand behind your words. You boycott everything from the US including this forum and I'll never again buy anything from Jordan. I'm sure there are a few forums based in your lovely country. Go there to do business. [Oh wait... you arent AT this forum to do business... you only come to trash P&R threads... I've seen your post record. Very educational.] Make good on your boastful threats (trust me, we can handle your absence) or don't say stuff you don't mean. You're just wasting bandwidth with idle bluster. If you post another single post in this forum we'll know you are ALL TALK and NO ACTION. Back your words. Go participate in a Jordanian forum, leave this one to actual web professionals.
I thought that now as the people of iraq are 'liberated' and have real democracy so they would be free to chose among companies globally I didn't knew that they have to 1st take permission for things like contracts etc from us govt ... how dare can these slaves award lucrative contracts to a Muslims country ..Turkey ... and thanks to the cheapster who dug out my 3 year old post in SEO forum to leave red rep ..oh man I am sure getting on your nerves, go out and have some water
Is there any reason all the P/R only poster forum trolls are share the same hate avatar? Is it just me or am I missing something here? BTW, to the OP. Are you saying that America should have just taken over Iraq and forced it to do business with only American countries? I know our interests were at stake in terms of the threat of Terrorism in that region, but should that also include our financial interests as well? I guess I am not sure what you are saying.
lol yeah, "You're free now!...Except your gift certificates that we've given in exchange for your old currency are only good at our stores." No one has any idea what freedom means anymore...Or is willing to do what is needed to protect them...