Alternative for P2P Clickbank Products...YourClick.com??

Did you get paid chum112?

 

Hi Guyz
i have been passive regarding this thread , just been watching it.
but decided to register to offer my $0.02.

first of all yourclick.com belongs to platinum partner.
the second fact is that yourclick.com is located in europe!,
now there could be many reasons for this but my biggest concern is
that since they are located there if they will ever decide not to pay,
there is nothing any of the US,CA affiliates can do about it.
you can't sue them there for your money.

the reason Clickbank removed all the P2P websites is because clickbank
has many lawsuits from major motion studios, dysney etc.. and the funds
they have to pay to deal with legal issues and risk became greater then the P2P income and it wasn't worth it.

Platinum partner has created yourclick because they needed a new processor and one that they can depend on, however now that they manage the payment processor all the legal heat that was pointed to clickbank will now be pointed at yourclick
(wait and see) , and i am guessing they will buckle under this legal pressure much faster the CB did.
when this happens you are likely to lose your income,
i am guessing its a matter of time until they suddenly disappear from the face of the earth (including with the last payment of aff commissions).

the refund rate on yourclick is higher then what you had on CB because
they are smaller and are much more sensetive to chargebacks (reputation on the credit card companies) , so they will refund as much as they can as they can't afford to have a high chargeback ratio.
reading from other affiliates here i understand you get 33%! refunds,
that makes sense to me since they have no choice but to refund any request.

just my $0.02

 

Although yourclick is owned by Platinum Partners, yourclick is seemingly “managed” by a company named M.C. Technologies Ltd. with a Bahamas address. Reason for that being, the entertainment industry (MPAA, RIAA, etc) has a harder time suing offshore operations that don’t come under the DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act). There have been huge crackdowns in Europe concerning BitTorrent trackers (http://torrentfreak.com) because they are a cooperating community with the entertainment industry concerning copywrite infringement. The Bahamas I believe are more liberal about it. And yes yourclick can disappear with our money because they are an offshore operation, kind of a trade off here.

Could you reference those lawsuits? I’d like to read them. After P2P software was developed and released in the late 90’s the entertainment industry lobbied congress to make the software illegal because it has the “potential” to be used for illegal purposes, congress told them basically to get lost. Same thing happened in the 70’s when Sony came out with the cassette recorder. “Potential” for illegal use does not warrant making something illegal in this country, we are still a democracy to some degree (case in point: gun manufacturers, pharmaceuticals). But yes, in America anybody can sue anybody else for anything. Whether or not they win is another story.

They created an offshore operation to do the exact opposite, keep the heat OFF of them.

Size of a company has nothing to do with sensitivity to charge backs. I speculate a high refund rate with yourclick due to the fact they claim to have only a 7 day refund policy whereas Clickbank claims 60 days. People are more apt to forget if they think they have 60 days. Clickbank refunded a sale of mine that was 65 days old. When I asked them about it they told me they did it to avoid a chargeback to the vendor (NOT to Clickbank) which I fully understood. Clickbank and yourclick only process the transaction so it's no sweat off their backs how many charge backs a vendor gets but to their own interest they don't want to lose vendors so they look out for them by avoiding charge backs to the vendor. I was employed with a company that did credit card processing and Visa came in and laid down the "Law". It’s not company size or dollar ratio, it’s a flat fee for everyone and if you exceed that dollar amount they (Visa/Mastercard, etc.) will cut you off regardless of how much revenue you did with them. Next time a vendor/merchant ticks you off regarding a service or product threaten them with a chargeback if they’re being lame, you’ll see how fast they react to your request regardless of size (I did it with small merchants up to giants like Dell Computers, they all react the same). A fact not known by many, regardless of what a merchant’s/vendor’s refund policy is the credit card companies and banks allow a customer up to 60 days for a refund/chargeback and they’re quick to be on the customer’s side. I believe that if yourclick changed their refund policy on the checkout page to 60 days as well refunds would drop substantially. And it would make sense for them to do that because that's what the policy is according to the credit card companies (are ya reading this yourclick.com/Platinum Partners?).

 

Is anyone else also experiencing a big drop in conversions? (My conversion rate has dropped by more than 50% since the 5th of May)

Just trying to figure out if its problem with YourClick or a problem with my campaign. I've emailed PP but have yet to receive a reply.

 

my income has become less than 10 % of what I made in March April ..yourclick.com is no good....I think its over for affiliates making a decent income from P2P , we need to look at some other niche

 

I'm back up to about 85% of what I used to do in revenue, now to see if I actually get paid by yourclick.

 

FYI:
May 5, 2009
New P2P Bills Focus on Security, Not Copyright
http://tech.yahoo.com/news/zd/20090505/tc_zd/240018

While they are cracking down on P2P (copyright infringement) in Europe that's not the case in the United States.

 

How is everyone going now? Customer service has once again been good. And payments have been recieved. However im noticing a worrying decline in sales over the past few days.

 

The last 2 weeks have been good for me, meaning that refunds have decreased a whole lot. I am also starting to see daily sales figures like those of clickbank. Today though, yeah today has been shit. Seems their servers are slow and it effects my conversions more than anything else.


@ Redbaron = Good, all valid, points

 

I think it's the time for another payment release. The payment history need to be updated.

 

I think this one is gonna disappear soon. And yes, sales have decreased in the last few days. If they are legitimate, i guess they should lower the payout to around $250.
$1k is way too big for YC. What if the company disappeared when i was at $850?

 

my sales this month about 140 and refund 23 is that high value of refund ? Today ( sunday) is a strange day , more than 500 hits in half day and no sale at all ! :|

 

Didn´t they already decrease it or am I wrong?

 

Honestly, I never havn't looked at the payment page for a few months since i setup my account. I can't see any option to even edit my personal and payment information!

 

They are legit. And like it was said earlier in the thread, moving to the Bahamas is so they can stay open for longer.

 

Not being able to edit your payment info manually is praxis with many AF programs. I myself had to write them to change the wire info. About the payment threshold I still seem to remember they lowered it? Something like 250usd or so would be more reasonable anyway.

I also noticed I got paid the other day, the 15th, as stated in the AF area.

 

I don't think the payment threshold is $250. It is still $1k. See this http://yourclick.com/faq.aspx#13
Is there anyone else who got a $250 payment threshold set on his account?

 

The minimum payout is still $1000. There is no change in it.

By the way, did any one notice any updation in the payment history? Today is 19th.

 

Yeah my payment history updated.

 

Yes, mine changed aswell