Almost Scammed - Western Union

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by mad-d702, Nov 15, 2008.

  1. #1
    Hello,

    Well I was trying to order a "BRAND NEW PS3 80GB BACKWARD COMPATIBLE FOR $399", the only payment that was available was Western Union. So I contacted the seller, he seemed legit, but I didn't fully believe him since the only payment gateway he offered was Western Union.

    He was from London, England. We agreed that I will send the money to UK on the receivers name being my dad's name. We agreed that once I'll do that he will then send me the PS3 and once I receive it, I will change the receivers name to his so he can pick up the money (he offered this so that i feel "safe"). Well so I did that, I send the money to UK with receivers name being my dad.

    I have emailed him about the payment being sent. He requested a MTCN# (which I believe is needed when you want to make any changes to your payment including but not limited to changing your receiver's name). I told him that I will not give him that info, but I will show him the transfer info by making a screenshot, PLUS I even gave him the receipt of me sending the money, however, I crossed out the MTCN#... He looked at the receipt, did not believe me. He looked at the screenshot, he did not believe me. Told me to give him the MTCN# because he has to check in his "own business database or database itself". Well that was a click to me that he is attempting to sam me. Well I am not that stupid.

    Well we kept arguing, and he kept requesting the MTCN# in every single e-mail that he has sent me. I never gave it to him. I decided that I will just refund the money that I have sent, I lost $30 (tax/fess by Western Union). The offer seemed too good to be true it self. But I wanted to give it a try.


    I have his Name, Address, and cell or phone number. I was wondering if I could sue him or at least warn the UK Police about him, or request the Police to take action. Would that be possible?
     
    mad-d702, Nov 15, 2008 IP
  2. bkinfomail

    bkinfomail Peon

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    #2
    Yes, he was probably a scammer useing only WU as payment option. I would be 99% sure this was the case. However he has not commited a crime yet, you should still inform police that he possibly is doing a crime.

    You were smart and saved your money, good job!
     
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  3. mad-d702

    mad-d702 Member

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    I live in USA so how should I inform the Police in England?
     
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    You could look up the police for the town in which he was committing the crime. Then call using Skype, don't put all those costs on your phone bill!
     
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  5. ldngooner

    ldngooner Peon

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    #5
    The police won't give two shit's about this sort of thing. Just be careful in the future and don't waste your time trying to contact authorities, his hasn't even got your money so it's pointless. If something is to good to be true it most likely is ;) remember that.
     
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  6. CineTube

    CineTube Peon

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    mad-d702, there are a lot of scammers which advertise latest tech products like iPhone, PS3 and laptops. They advertise on various forum through spamming. They actually don't have any websites or they sell nothing. They give their msn on the posts which is like "abc_electronics@hotmail.com" at the end of the price list. When you contact them over MSN they will peruse you to buy product from them and tell that they accept payment only using "Western Union" and provide you the details to send them the money.

    After you send the money and email him with the MTCN# code he picks up the money and most of the time sends you nothing. It has been found in various forums that a lot of people has been cheated by these kinds of scammers and received nothing or had been send only a box filled with scrap materials.

    Remember "Western Union" can only be used to remittance purpose, to family members, educational purpose etc. "Western Union" don't allow the users to use service of "Western Union" for business purpose. So if you purchase anything sending the money using the "Western Union" no one will be able to help you any way. Because you are involved in an illegal transaction.

    Again you can't track the receiver because "Western Union" only asks for a Identity card (National or Driving license) and MTCN#. The ID Card may have false information with false picture. And this kind of scammers might be controlling some "Western Union" outlet to accept the payments.

    So beware of any kind of transaction or business which requires "Western Union". You will lose everything but get nothing. Again you may be caught if the authority found that you are using "Western Union" for business purpose.


    I would like to add here that; you will find in the scammers price list that they are selling products at a very cheap rate (half price) and the products are still new in the market.Usually a company will not sell you a new product at a discounted price.

    For example, if a scammer is selling you a product at $399 they should have bought it at $350 so that they can at least make a profit of $49. But just check the price of the product in the amazon and you will find that the actual value of the product is $1000. Again the product is brand new and selling in the market for premium price. Don't you smell something fishy in it?
     
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  7. peepin2me

    peepin2me Well-Known Member

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    I think you should just leave it. It is definitely not worth the hassle
     
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  8. Stein's Chaos

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    Westen union scammed you?
    OMG !
     
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  9. krkbkk

    krkbkk Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Western Union people no have other tasks to do. So they scammed him.

    What the hell you are asking?

    Did you read the entire post or just placing single line comments in order to raise ur post count?!

    Update :

    For sure you are here to raise your post count.I've checked your earlier posts.

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/search.php?searchid=14840017

    Out of 30 posts almost 28, you just gave 'Hi, welcome to the Forum' - single line message.

    I'm smelling something fishy here.
     
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  10. Bohra

    Bohra Prominent Member

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    :D Lol are u trying to be funny
     
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  11. drvenom

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    West Union aint a back door Company punk that will scam u for this much amount :))
     
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  12. scriptreseller

    scriptreseller Active Member

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    #12
    Police do jack he has not broken the law technically if you give out his name and address to people and say he is a scammer he could sure you and you live in the US.

    It would never happen as he sounds like a scammer but he did not scam you so he did not brake any laws.

    You lost $30 you could of lost $400 i would look at it as lesson learnt.
     
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  13. Bohra

    Bohra Prominent Member

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    u couuld just take his no call him and verify it...that way it would be a little more secure
     
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    Western union=asking for trouble.
     
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  15. mad-d702

    mad-d702 Member

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    Yea well I know that basically he did not brake any laws, but I was just thinking of informing the police so they just know :p

    But now I don't know :p It is definitely a lesson. I spoke to that guy over the phone. LOL all he wanted was the MTCN#.
     
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    #16
    smart decision
     
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  17. Dr Googler

    Dr Googler Banned

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    yes i hear that a multi million $ company is scamming people for mear pennys to them ,lol, i suggest this book for you lol, reading for dummies.

    lol, read the whole post b4 u post
     
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    I'm glad you avoided losing all of your money. Its a shame that you wasted time, effort, and $30 but it could have been a lot worst.

    I personally don't use Western Union unless I'm dealing with friends, family, and large businesses that I have an account and positive track record with. I can't help but get a bit suspicious of people selling things online who can ONLY accept WU.

    I'm sure you want to get the guy that wasted your time and almost took your money in trouble but I doubt that the authorities will do anything. Since no money changed hands I don't think that they would feel inclined to do anything. I would hold onto his info and keep an eye out for him to try to alert others that he might be trying to scam.
     
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    Good post.
     
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  20. mad-d702

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    Yea, well you guys are right. I am not really that upset or mad that I lost $30 because that was a good lesson ;) When I was talking to that gut he sort of made me lough many times because of the way he talked or things that he made up for his arguments thinking I would get tricked? Haha

    Well I haven't reported him yet, I might, but might not. Not sure..
     
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