Allin's? What exactly effects them and the results?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by securitylabel, Apr 21, 2006.

  1. #1
    OK Folks, I'm new in here but I have had a good look around and can't find any real information on the Allins, and what effects the results.
    Does anyonw know???

    For example Allinachor, obviously effected by anchor text and the number of backlinks using that text.
    BUT what about allintitle?? there has to be more to it that just the page title meta tag, I've had a look at the results and you can see it. i.e. when doing a search for allintitle: asset labels, no 1 is a site with a title metatag "Asset Labels - The Data Label Company" but then down at number 11 is a site with "Asset Labels | Self Adhesive Labels" as the title.
    So what effects the results? Number of characters? the keyword density in the title? the position of keywords? etc etc Does the H1 and H2 (header tags) in the code effect the results??

    And basically does anyone know the same about the allintext?

    my site was around Nos 1-4 for all the allins but after the Jagger update it dropped, has anyone had similar changes?
    Thanks for your help folks, I look forward to hearing from everyone.
    Graeme
    P.S. oh my site is here http://www.security-label.co.uk and my keywords are Asset labels, asset tags, security seals, security labels and hologram labels.
     
    securitylabel, Apr 21, 2006 IP
  2. FireStorM

    FireStorM Well-Known Member

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    All affect the results , Google use about 150 factors to determine a site`s rank . So it is better to optimize for all that you know ..
    Having the keyword in anchor text of backlinks is very important.
     
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  3. securitylabel

    securitylabel Peon

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    To say that everything effects the allin's is a bit of a sweeping generalization.

    There must be factors that effect each of the Allins individually.
    i.e. there must be somethings that effect Allintitle but has little effect on Allinanchor or allintext etc etc.

    Does no one know the answer?
     
    securitylabel, Apr 22, 2006 IP
  4. amnezia

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    i think you miss understand the concept of Allin. Its is a filter not a ranking metric.
     
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  5. securitylabel

    securitylabel Peon

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    OK I'm confussed then.
    I thought that the allins were 3 individual search engines (All are a part of the bigger google results) these three individual search engines display specific results based on a part of a website, such as the title, text or the backlinks.

    Allintitle would display the google results for pages with a specific keyword in the title, Allintext would display the google results for pages with a specific keyword in the text, and lastly Allinanchor would display the google results for pages with a specific keyword in the anchor (backlinking text).

    I suppose you could call them filters, in that they filter the google results to display rankings based on a keyword in a specific part of a website (title, text, anchor). That being the case you should still be able to increase rankings in one part, once you know what factors effect the filter.
     
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  6. amnezia

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    no it is the same data set with the same ranking algo just you are filtering the results.

    you cannot optimise for a filter, you either meet the criteria or you dont.
     
    amnezia, Apr 23, 2006 IP
  7. yannis

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    If you see the definition for the Allins you searching is clear. You are just specifying criteria for a search i.e. specifying your filter.

    allinurl:keyword (returns a list of pages and sites that contain the 'keyword'
    in their url.)

    allinanchor:keyword (returns a list of pages and sites that contain the keyword
    as anchor text in their backlinks.)

    allintitle:keyword (returns webpages that have the specified keywords in the
    title)

    intitle:keyword (returns listings of webpages that have only the specific keyword
    as the title.)

    My suggestion research the Websites that are ranking better now to see what changes they have made!
     
    yannis, Apr 25, 2006 IP
  8. Las Vegas Homes

    Las Vegas Homes Guest

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    Why would a site be ranked for the allintext strings for all its primary key phrases but one, the primary one. The site ranks high for allinanchor, allintitle for this primary phrase but not allintext.

    The other key phrases the site ranks high for allinanchor, allintitle and allintext. I am lost can anyone offer advice. The site is loaded with this primary phrase as well so if it holds that allintext looks at the phrase as it relates to this text search string it doesnt make sense not to be ranked for it.

    Could it be a penalty or a sandbox filter since this is the primary phrase that the sites in my industry want.
     
    Las Vegas Homes, Apr 30, 2006 IP