AllInAnchor: what does it tell us about sandboxing?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by matt-, Nov 2, 2006.

  1. #1
    Hey all,

    I've launched a few sites this year, and without a doubt the rankings are slowly getting better as the sites get older. Only appearing in the top 50 pages for major keywords after about 6 months, then slowly making their way down.

    Now I know that Matt Cutt's has confirmed that there are a bunch of filters that can act together to form what we all call the sandbox.

    As far as I understand, the filters are on the age of the site, and possibly age of the links? searching for any of my terms with allinanchor: puts me in very favourable positions.

    Since it's widely reported that the google algo is larely about links and the anchor text, would it be possible that searching with allinanchor: reveals in part, where you would or will rank without any age penalties? Assuming that your onpage SEO is top notch too that is.

    Any thoughts on this? I'm just throwing out my observation (and hopes) here, so im not claiming to be right. Just wanted to share some thoughts and see what other peoples view's are.

    Thanks,
    Matt.
     
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  2. disgust

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    #2
    in my experience, yes, allinanchor still works to reveal the sandbox effects... sometimes. it's not as clear cut as it used to be. it used to be incredibly easy to tell exactly where you'd be ranking without the sandbox. now, on some sites, not all, it sure seems to me like they've removed some of the "tricks" that made it obvious you were sandboxed.
     
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  3. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #3
    Interesting disgust, can you elaborate a little?
     
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    so allinanchor term doesnt help u know if ur site is sandboxed?
     
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  5. Winagain

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    #5
    I don't get it.
    my domain get 840 results for "domain.com"
    but allinanchor:domain.com gives me more than 3,000 results.

    what does that menan?
     
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  6. matt-

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    From what I can tell, searching with allinanchor: for established sites (1+ years) makes no difference in the serps for competitive terms. But younger sites usually show a lot of difference in rankings. And the only reason that I can put that down to is the age based filters that alot of sites experience when they launch. Perhaps the allinanchor: results aren't exactly where you'll rank when your site is aged, but I think it gives a glimpse - atleast thats what I'm hoping :)

    Just my take on it.
     
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  7. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    #7
    I'd have to agree. I use allinachor to get an idea of the amount of link building needed to be done. Once you're at #1 for allinanchor: and not at #1 in the SERPS, you're either sandboxed, built poor quality links or your on-page SEO is way off.
     
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    So let me see if i have this correct ...

    I have a site that is 3 months old.
    I have done great seo (on page)
    I have build lots of inbound link with the anchor text 'pink fish'

    When i perform a G search for 'pink fish' im nowhere to be found because im sandboxed due to the age of my site.

    However if i search allinanchor:pink fish (is this correct?)
    This is more likley to show me results as if im NOT sand boxed ?

    Example:

    google search ' pink fish ' returns ...

    site 1 (20 inbound links anchor=pink fish)
    site 2 (18 inbound links anchor=pink fish)
    site 3 (16 inbound links anchor=pink fish)
    site 4 (14 inbound links anchor=pink fish)
    site 5 (12 inbound links anchor=pink fish)

    google search ' allinanchor:pink fish ' could return ...

    site 1 (20 inbound links anchor=pink fish)
    MYSITE (19 inbound links anchor=pink fish)
    site 2 (18 inbound links anchor=pink fish)
    site 3 (16 inbound links anchor=pink fish)
    ANOTHER SB SITE (16 inbound links anchor=pink fish)

    ??? IS THIS WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SAYING ???
     
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  9. MattUK

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    Not exactly, there are other factors that are taken into account, like quality of on-page optimisation and the link profile, but in simplistic terms yes.
     
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  10. darrens

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    can anyone show me a example of serps for a normal standard search and then serps using the allinanchor search that is different on page 1 ?

    i cant find this at all - both search look 100% the same
     
    darrens, Nov 9, 2006 IP
  11. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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