Allah honored women by instating the punishment of beating in Islam

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  1. #1
    Hello All,

    Watch this video carefully as this Egyptian cleric tries to justify wife beating in Islam.

    [video=youtube;pgxn-4rtVI8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgxn-4rtVI8[/video]

    Summarizing why women are "Honored":

    *Don't beat her in the face and do not make her ugly.

    *When he beats her, he must not curse!

    *He must not break her bones, teeth or poke her eyes

    According to the cleric,
    The punishment of beating is permissible in one case only-
    When she refuses to sleep with him!


    To top that off, I would have to add that Islam also honored women in the following verses:

     
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  2. Darpie

    Darpie Peon

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    #2
    How'd you miss this quote?

    Quran 4:34 (Dawood translation)
     
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  3. Helvetii

    Helvetii Notable Member

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    #3
    Disgusting.
     
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  4. ApocalypseXL

    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

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    #4
    Another idiot to toss to the lunacy bin . I wonder if he even went trough high school .
     
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  5. cientificoloco

    cientificoloco Well-Known Member

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    #5
    Hey Luke, how about reading for us some passages of the old testament to see how your version of allah honored women?

    Oh, I know, we shouldn't misinterpret the bible.
     
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  6. ApocalypseXL

    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

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    #6
    We don't have an Allah . Nor do we have public lashings of women .

    For reaching the dark age take a left turn after you pass the event horizon .
     
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  7. wmghori

    wmghori Well-Known Member

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    #7
    [video=youtube;sWFluxnAcwA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWFluxnAcwA[/video]

    [video=youtube;eYpje0qIvFA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYpje0qIvFA[/video]

    [video=youtube;VajL8yeDU3g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VajL8yeDU3g[/video]

    [video=youtube;8XO8_cEIxr0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XO8_cEIxr0[/video]

    Funny you refuse to see these videos on the youtube. these are in top results for the search term "wife beating in islam". Probably not suiting your agenda, right?
     
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  8. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #8
    To the OP: please shut up and don't claim to speak for Muslim women as we don't feel threatened or intimidated by the religion of our choice, which is ISLAM. Such polemics of yours are dealt with all over the web, all it takes is doing a search with an onine tool called "Google".
     
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  9. ApocalypseXL

    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

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    @awinsjclarke Chill out you're , losing the coherence of your words . Religion doesn't threaten anyone , however religion is often used by subhumans to perform heinous deeds . It is not a polemic that Islamic extremists do horrible things it is a sad reality .

    And in a off-topic observation : do you really think that your website helps non-muslims perceive Islam in a different way ? From my point of view all you're doing is a poor worded propaganda . You examples are shabby to say the least and impartiality is not a quality present on your website . My advice is that you rethink how you present Islam to the world . Violence never lead to peace .
     
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    ROFL. Thanks a lot Menj, now I have coffee all over my monitor.
     
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    #11
    What else do you expect from a cyber cross-dressing Islamist?

    I'm wondering If menj is going to undergo vaginoplasty so that he can become a female in the real world too :rolleyes:

    PS: I'm trying to re-read the Koran to see what it says about men who want to be women.
     
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  12. luke12

    luke12 Member

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    #12
    I never spoke for them. I was quoting the Islamic cleric. If he said something wrong, then you should tell him to shut up. You should answer us directly to let us know your view. Maybe I am mistaken?
    "Religion of our choice"? Try going out in public and show the Islamic world you're a proud woman of leaving Islam. Count the number of death threats you shall receive. There is no choice for you at all.
     
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  13. luke12

    luke12 Member

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    I did not see them because I do not use youtube as my reference for "wife beating in Islam". Actually, youtube is usually my last source and I had to dig deep to find the video above because it was originally in another format.
    Why use youtube when you have Quran, hadith's and Islamic clerics?
    Back on subject, what is your view on this then? I recited few quotes from your Quran and hadith's to support my point.
     
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    wmghori Well-Known Member

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    #14
    My views are same as the Sheiks' in the videos I posted. Did you bother watching and listening to them? Youtube is a tool to host videos.

    Dig deep on this site http://www.islamtomorrow.com if your intentions are to study. Instead of posting in this forum and receive outbursts from awinsjclarke, you can ask any question on any matter directly to a sheik on that site. Don't be affraid they won't blow you up :) . Or you like provoking awinsjclarke?
     
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    #15
    My favorite guide on how to be a true muslim, as releaved to us by god in the holy quran via his prophet Mo, is given by Egyptian cleric Galal al khatib.
    [video=youtube;fIlQq4NiSzE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIlQq4NiSzE[/video]
    Make sure you watch it carefully and exercise everything.
    Peace be upon you and allah knows best.
     
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  16. luke12

    luke12 Member

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    #16
    Alright buddy. Let see, I am watched the first video just to make you happy and to be fair.

    Here are my comments

    1) The terrorist in the first video "The Truth about Wife Beating and Islam" started by saying "You heard this because the infidels are coming at us all the time"
    What a fool. Infidels because we are not following your religion?

    2) So he starts by telling the folks that "beat them" is not mistranslated since it means exactly what its supposed to mean as written in the original Arabic language - "to hit them". I agree with that.

    3) All of a sudden, he makes up the excuse that the Muhammed meant by hit them - to tap them! I'll repeat, in case you thought it was a typing error, to TAP them!

    Are you serious? Ask yourself this:
    1) why did the cleric in the video I posted mentions the regulations of "Beating women" ? i.e, While beating, do not wound their flesh, break their teeth, bones ect? Would tapping do this kind of damage? or different Muslim clerics are misinterpreting words according to their views?

    2) When was the last time you saw women getting tapped with toothpicks ?

    3) Why did not the verse in the Quran mention "Tap them" instead of "Beat them" ?

    4) Does discipline really come by tapping with a toothpick ?

    5) Are these Sheikhs really manipulating you? Study your books and find out yourself.
     
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  17. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    Hey Menj, if you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

    If you don't like seeing people expressing their freedom of speech, get off the damned Internet. Go lock yourself up in some dark and dank madrasah.
     
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    I didn't know islam had such things.The more i read the threads on islam the more i start to hate them
     
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    #19
    Allah honored women by instating the punishment of beating in Islam

    How about that for an example of what the other chapters of Quran might mean to other humans or other countries of this world? Could it be mass killing Indians, Israelis, Americans... by Allah and his followers? Probably that's how Allah honors others.
     
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  20. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #20
    We have got to find a way to stop the spread of the evil of Islam, or civilization on this planet is doomed.
     
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