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Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by D4rKNull, May 2, 2007.

  1. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #301
    That's what I believe in. That's frequently called "Libertarianism."

    Doesn't it bother you that this philosophy is terribly un-Islamic?
    • What if you see your neighbor having sex out of wedlock?
    • What if you see your neighbor having sex with a member of the same sex?
    • What if you see your neighbor smoking marijuana?
    • What if you see your neighbor who is a female having sex with a male who is not a Muslim?
    For all of these things, Islam has one course of action which it considers correct and Libertarianism holds the opposite view. You can't, logically, hold both viewpoints.

    P.S. Welcome to the thread from hell. :)
     
    Will.Spencer, Aug 18, 2007 IP
  2. Muhammad Haris

    Muhammad Haris Peon

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    #302
    Watch them. Lol :p
     
    Muhammad Haris, Aug 18, 2007 IP
  3. Gnet

    Gnet Peon

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    #303
    Well then you get a camera and buy a domain like "daytimesluts.com"..duh'
     
    Gnet, Aug 18, 2007 IP
  4. Muhammad Haris

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    #304
    Hahahah! ;)

    Anyways, to be serious, why interfere?
     
    Muhammad Haris, Aug 18, 2007 IP
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    gweb Well-Known Member

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    #305
    Makes no sense..... if you read what I say

    As for Ali Sina, he is banned in nearly ALL muslim nations because he speaks truth - LOGIC will always win out... and they don't want you to see it why??
     
    gweb, Aug 18, 2007 IP
  6. Muhammad Haris

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    #306
    Any prove that a debatist is banned from all muslim nations?
     
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    gweb Well-Known Member

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    #307
    I meant his website; Yep...... it's a fact; go find out yourself if you like.. he even says on his site:
    www.faithfreedom.org
     
    gweb, Aug 18, 2007 IP
  8. Will.Spencer

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    #308
    Ummm... because Islamic law says so?
     
    Will.Spencer, Aug 18, 2007 IP
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    #309
    Shows your iq level and what the kind of logic you adhere to. Just because Sina says his website is banned in all Muslim countries, you accept it as a fact without even researching? Typical.

    Second no it is not banned in all muslim countries. It can be accessed from many Muslim countries. So please get your facts and (logic) straight if you want to be taken seriously and do not twist information in your favor to try to prove your views.
     
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    #310
    Please furnish proof as to it being a forgery? Just because you don't like it? I think it is a masterpiece.
     
    uniqueasitis, Aug 18, 2007 IP
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    #311
    I thought muslims had a constant jihad which was internal?? Isn't that really what Jihad is about anyway?
     
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    gweb Well-Known Member

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    #312
    Oh yea, IQ level... ? OK mate, good one! How about my levels of reason VS your denial of logic

    Typical of what? Explain yourself further if you want your point to be deemed valid.

    I didn;t say all muslim countries... go back, read my original post, and see what I see, you're an idiot.

    What views must I prove? I know all about Islam... I'm a westerner who happens to have lived in the middle east, Bahrain, saudi, and Kuwait - I know all about Islam - dont worry about that... Ali Sina is worthy of note due to his raging against the Earth's cancer that is religion, and Islam specifically.

    I'm never against the people... always against the bogus lies of these man made systems of faith...

    Peace be upon you bro :)
     
    gweb, Aug 18, 2007 IP
  13. Muhammad Haris

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    #313
    Internal Jihad? Care to explain?
     
    Muhammad Haris, Aug 18, 2007 IP
  14. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #315
    Some Muslims, like Shameem -- my other friend from Pakistan -- believe that the true meaning of "Jihad" is the struggle for purification of ones own soul.

    This is part of what makes Shameem a good person. He spends more time trying to fix himself than he spends trying to fix other people.
     
    Will.Spencer, Aug 19, 2007 IP
  16. Muhammad Haris

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    #316
    Shameem is absolutely correct.
     
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    #317
    That's yours and a minority of muslims opinion...... I think Jihad is the war against the infidels - as do the majority of 'proper' muslims.. therein lies the problem.....
     
    gweb, Aug 19, 2007 IP
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    #318
    Salam to all the Musilms here.

    I would like say this especially to the OP, please never post this kind of message. It only brings more attention to it. Leave it and it will go away. Allah is the best of planners.
     
    M5love, Aug 19, 2007 IP
  19. Muhammad Haris

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    #319
    You're referring to Jihad by the sword which is ONE AND THE LAST CHOICE of jihad but jihad by the sword isn't what Al-Qaeda or Taliban calls it. Jihad by the sword can only be carried out under injustice and oppression against those people who've done it and there are certain laws for the the people who take part in Jihad and one of that is to protect the lives of the civilians whether they belongs to them or they belongs to the the enemy. Quran doesn't allow the people who take part in Jihad to BOMB me or you or anyone else who is innocent unless they don't know who are the innocent people(mentally retarded).

    Jihad by sword is also meant to be against '# Against the rejecters of truth after it has become evident to them' but it cannot be implemented in morden world and none of the Muslim country supports it.
     
    Muhammad Haris, Aug 19, 2007 IP
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    #320
    Brother, I appreciate your balanced stance and outlook on these matters - but I've seen and heard way too much to know that religion in general and Islam included is a threat to the evolution of humanity... Any Islamic state that adheres to the laws of Islam.. fails.. it's a fact and the reason why moderates flee to other countries.. often a western oasis where they have the freedom to practice their beliefs.. fact is religion is a divider - simple as that and Islam is one of the worst for it - your opinion may be different but I've travelled and lived amongst extreme and moderate muslims, christians .. I've studied theology and I've bowed to the ways, compromised way too often so as to not offend.. The truth will always win out.. as you would say the truth crushed to earth will rise again - and I know that all these systems of faith that have been around for one nano second in the history of time.. will be outed and seen in the true light.. that they are lies.. man made fabrications with the intention to divide and conquer.. Logic will out as more and more of our species realise the truth.. and become less weak in their need for answers; however bizarre they may be. All the best.
     
    gweb, Aug 19, 2007 IP