http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2011/05/al-qaeda_attacks looks like 4000 dead people so far as a result of their terrorist activities from their beginning until today... iraqbodycount.org has the victims of US intervention at 100.000+ this is just one US "intervention" terrorism has never been more alive...its just the media control and marketing that makes you focus on small time amateurs like bin laden....
They are small indeed. In the countries they operate they are not popular. But they are magnified and made big my western media. There is no reason to be in Afghanistan nor Iraq, they should leave immediately.
To be fair, the 4,000 people doesn't include the Iraq or Afghanistan AlQeada murders whereas the 100,000 only includes them. I think you need to include them numbers too if you're gonna compare.
Bushranger, did you just fairly attribute deaths in Iraq to Al Queda? What has happened to you man? Pull it together! I suspect Al Queda didn't personally murder the hundreds of thousands in Iraq. Instead, they were busily bombing Mosques and other religiously inflammatory targets. Once they stoked up the hate, those folks were more than happy to kill each other, creating a very friendly environment for Al Queda to operate in and recruit from. By the way, you should ask AtvKing how many Muslim's he has personally killed just because they were Muslim.
Well I'm a double refugee,I have a muslim surname + i was in croatia + they hunted me LOL so you will have to do better than that, also, as I have told you several times, only a stupid mother F***** goes and fights over politics. You must have me mistaken for some stupid loser no brain terrorist recruit who can't find a better way to earn money than to fly over half the globe to bomb and kill others. Like your army for example OH AND US BOMBS AND BULLETS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE 100.000 DEAD IN IRAQ! NOOOOOOOOO "these folks were more than happy to kill each other" AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA! i mean the 100.000-s of US BOMBS didnt kill anybody at all AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! it never ever counts when you murder does it? LOL you nazis! hahahahahahha oh and the decades of economic sanctions and bullshit wars had nothing to do with it either it was all ALQUAIDA! AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHHA AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAAA! omg americans are the craziest nation in the world...you just cant begin to explain to them how strong the brainwash is in their country...unreal...
Although you think i'm anti American my stance has always really been anti bullshit and not anti US. My aim is to overide the crap by bringing truths to the fore, and you can't do that with devious figures.
It is just practical thinking which will give you the answer who has taken more lives, Al qaeda or US. Tell me how many lives did 9/11 take, 3000 which was one of the major attacks by Al qaeda and how many lives did US bombs take in Iraq or afghanistan or even in Laos. Normally people see on TV the 9 11 disaster and think thats really disastorous and when US started dropping bombs after 9 11 , they think its just fair because US is doing what it should, people don't dig up things. There is no need for a survey, US has taken much more lives than AL qaeda.
It's funny to see collateral damage casualties as "victim" . Ignore that fact that the US could pull maybe 1 M deaths with just 1 well placed Tomahawk (non-nuclear) . What can I say misinformed limited people will always bee this way , for them trolling is a logical argument .
It's no doubt clear to anyone reading the thread.... the stable one here is the guy typing manic laughter after his sentences. Yes, we're all aware you're still sore the US interrupted the ethnic cleansing party in your neighborhood. Life's rough, even moreso for guys that root for racist dictators.
It's true that we Americans are today's biggest war mongers. We terrorize the most. We kill the most. We destroy villages and cities. We use chemical/nuclear weapons that affect people for years to come. We ruin and end lives. But! It's all for peaceful purposes. You know, things like: - Stopping genocide (we sold them weapons so they kill each other) - Stopping terror (we funded and supplied them with weapons) - Spreading democracy (we install and fund dictators) We see this as good deeds, even though we have no money to fund these wars. Aren't we super duper generous, we take out loans to help others, even though our own people suffer from lack of jobs, lack of health care, we have so much crime and terrible things in our society, but we put foreigners first, that's what makes us so great. Sooner or later nobody will want to give us loans and we will become bankrupt, at that point we won't know what to do because we've made so many nations hate us around the world.
Cute, but everyone here knows you aren't American and you live in the UK, Abdikareem. I'm sure your fantasy cross-continent move will be embraced by guys in the UK, but Americans are gonna be less than enthusiastic. We're a melting pot, not a Proctology clinic.
you seem to suffer from the same impotence that obamanation suffers from...you see when you are unable to defend the 100.000-s of BOMBS your terrorist country unloads on others your redneck brain simply short fuses... first off let me educate you about something...your country sponsored the ethnic cleansing/separation/nationalism in MY country... dont take my word for it go educate yourself google "coratian terrorism in the USA" wont be hard to find they hijacked US planes, raided embassies in the USA, killed people who would not pay extortion money to them and EVEN TRIED TO BLOW UP THE STATUE OF LIBERTY AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ...for fucks sake it was even on the Discovery chanel LOL....its super easy to find connections between Busic and Tudjman (USA appointed leader also author of "guide to guerilla warfare" book on terrorism LOL) this is YOUR PUPPET YOUR WEAPONS YOUR SUPPORT! Also look up Hashim Thaci and "human organ harvesting" also "interpol and hashim tachi" this is the USA appointed BEST BOY LOL this is YOUR LEADER APPOINTED BY THE USA! LOL BUT WAIT!! dont the USA have a notorious track record of installing dictators and shady shady puppets? how about Saddam LOL your BEST BOY saddam? or your BEST BOY BIN LADEN? remember how you used to help him too? how about Khomeini in Iran? how about cementing in power the house of SAUD worlds #1 enforcers of radical islam? how about nicaragua/paraguay/bolivia/angola?? oh did i forgot to mention that you drop 100.000s of bombs? honestly, im not lying here, when i hear the word terrorism my very first association is not alquaida its the USA! yes it is! LOL ... I like guys like robjones and obamanation...in domestic political issues they will clearly state that they do not trust their government, or that they dont fully trust their government, and that it is corrupt and what not, BUT on foreign issues the US government , somehow, becomes fucking immaculate LOOOOOOOOL...capable of no wrong doing at all LOOOOOOOOOOL...their wall street government rapes the american people left and right (remember the economic crisis?) but this same government, somehow, does not do this abroad and to other nations LOOOOOOOOOOL.... as i said the brain wash in america is super strong...north korea has less brainwash than the americans...i mean i was sorry for the north koreans but americans are in a whole league of their own LOL
true. here's one: US send forces to other countries = Foreign countries send illegal migrants to US. American's cry foul why ?
Afghan immigrants and Iraqi immigrants don't seem to be a problem so far . The US has train load of Chinese immigrants and a few million illegal Mexicans .
You know this for a fact because your a US citizen ? I've stated foreign and you nit pick but it doesn't matter they are foreign.
I know this fact because there are statistics about it . You can look them up . The biggest source of illegal immigrants is Mexico a country that hasn't been invaded by the US therefore you statement is false .