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Alex Doyle Associates

Discussion in 'General Business' started by albereto, Jun 22, 2004.

  1. jeff

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    I could never get one bit of common sense or a straight answer from anyone at ADA , Andrew Morris always told me to talk to "Patrick" who was rarely available and when i did get through to him always promised to call me back but never managed to , then when I finally managed to get a refund for non performance from ADA my credit card was redebited by ADA for the original sum as i had somehow left some of their code on my system when we reloaded our original website back on ? absolute load of rubbish if you ask me and I never got a satisfactory answer from Andrew or anyone at ADA , Now not knowing the first thing about computers (hence employing ADA) maybe that code was on there , then again maybe it wasnt , and if it was on there why didnt ADA communicate the fact in "plain English" about what needed to be done , instead of knowing they have a contractual loophole that can result in redebiting , the credit card company wiped the debt which tells me that they thought it was wasnt right for me to pay for goods or services that I hadnt actually received! Either way a company is as good as its man age ment structure , maybe the youth isnt of enough age yet ? Better luck next time Master Morris.
    SEMrush
     
    jeff, Aug 4, 2005 IP
    SEMrush
  2. Kirkburton

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    #562
    I've just been forwarded a new contact number for e-commerce marketing if anyone wants to call them 0845 120 0740

    Anyone wany a laugh, here is an e-mail sent out by them. Note the insinuation that they have got good results for the big name companies, when if you readit carefully they are saying we have designed these sites...and these others (that we have had nothing to do with) are getting good results.



    I would like to tell you a little about what we do and show you some examples of work we have carried out for some of our other clients.

    Pay Per Click can be quite an expensive way of marketing your website particularly if you're spending a large amount of your advertising budget and not seeing the conversion from the hits you get in terms of sales.

    For example, if you're spending £1000 per month on pay per click and receiving 10,000 hits to your website of which, the majority of those hits aren't turning into business, that's £1000 that your company has lost.

    E-commerce marketing can drive the same amount of unique hits to your website on the natural listings which means a higher conversion rate for a considerably lower costing therefore saving your company money.

    Unlike SEO companies that offer you great listings on search engines and then in actual fact give you disappointing results, our company work on the basis that our clients pay for results. We work this way because we believe it's ethically correct and because if our clients are satisfied with the results we achieve on their behalf, they want to employ our services continually. Therefore, we can build what we hope to be a lasting relationship with our clients.

    Below are some website addresses of other clients that we service. If you would like to view the websites I'm sure you'll agree that the work we have carried out is both professional and effective. There are also some search terms below that you may check on Google which will show that the methods that we employ at E-commerce Marketing work and work well.

    If it is possible, I would like to arrange a meeting with yourself and other decision makers in your marketing strategy to discuss what we do and show you examples of successes we've had with other companies in your industry sector and other industries.

    Example websites
    The following websites have all been designed by E-commerce Marketing Ltd.
    WWW.PACKAGEHOLIDAYDEALS.CO.UK
    WWW.CARIBBEANHOLIDAYDEALS.CO.UK
    WWW.CYPRUSHOLIDAYDEALS.CO.UK
    WWW.REDSEAHOLIDAYDEALS.CO.UK
    WWW.THESTUDENTBUS.COM

    The following websites are all in top positions for the following search terms;
    1. WWW.PICOVERDE.COM - TYPE IN ANY OF THE FOLLOWING:

    · WALKING HOLIDAYS SPAIN

    · HIKING HOLIDAYS SPAIN

    · HOLIDAYS SPAIN

    2. WWW.HOLIDAY.CO.UK - TYPE IN ANY OF THE FOLLOWING:

    · HOLIDAY

    · PACKAGE HOLIDAY

    3. WWW.DURAWELD.CO.UK - TYPE IN ANY OF THE FOLLOWING:

    · A4 RING BINDERS

    · A3 RING BINDERS

    · CUSTOMISED RING BINDERS

    4. WWW.UNITYESTATES.COM - TYPE IN ANY OF THE FOLLOWING:

    · LUXURY PROPERTY MARBELLA

    · OFF PLAN PROPERTY MARBELLA


    I hope that this information is of use to you.

    Kind Regards,


    Daniel Howard 0845 120 0740

    Appointments Manager

    E-commerce Marketing Ltd
     
    Kirkburton, Sep 15, 2005 IP
  3. SystemCare

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    #563
    Ive just called a couple of these people and they have never heard of E Commerce Marketing Ltd. Surely to pass your work off as someone elses is illegal?
     
    SystemCare, Sep 15, 2005 IP
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    #564
    Why are so many of these internet business schemers in their early 20s? Too hard to go out and start a real business?

    I did read some of the early parts, and I find it amusing anyone would guarantee top serps placements. If it were so easy, then they could dominate the serps and own every single search term. Clearly that is not possible, so how could they ever think to offer it.

    It is unfortunate anyone ever hooked up with these guys for services and lost money. I don't suggest giving up, but it should be a lesson learned, for sure.
     
    aeiouy, Sep 15, 2005 IP
  5. Kirkburton

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    It'll be passed on to trading standards, but as we all know they've got no balls to do anything about it.
     
    Kirkburton, Sep 15, 2005 IP
  6. Kirkburton

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    #566
    Hi All, I have it on good authority that Andew Morris is now working for a company called First Found (www.firstfound. co.uk). I know nothing about this company so may be reputable but be wary if you get a call from the one with the nasal twang in case he has taken his address book. It might be worth checking this out as well as someone is already complaining about their selling techniques which will sound very familiar to alot of us. http://www.searchguild.com/viewtopic.php?p=238255
     
    Kirkburton, Jan 18, 2006 IP
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    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #567
    Did you get anywhere in the end as far as money back is concerned?

    (Wow, first found does search engine submissions!)
     
    T0PS3O, Jan 18, 2006 IP
  8. Kirkburton

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    I managed to get all money I paid to Alex Doyle back through my Credit Card provider, I know there were others that were not quite so lucky though.
     
    Kirkburton, Jan 18, 2006 IP
  9. Kirkburton

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    I have spoken to Barrie at First Found and I can assure you that Andrew Morris is in no way associated with this company.

    Apologies to First Found for this misunderstanding.
     
    Kirkburton, Jan 23, 2006 IP
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    It takes a big man to openly admit a mistake, well done!
     
    Old Welsh Guy, Jan 24, 2006 IP
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    #571
    http://elgg.net/patrick/

    It is the same Patrick Gallagher - check out the resumes posted in his RSS feed - listing Alex Doyle as the current employer.

    http://elgg.net/patrick/files/318/738/CV+Oracle+Experience.doc

    http://elgg.net/patrick/files/318/737/CV+HR+Experience.doc

    What can I say, the man really works hard
     
    agent86, Jan 25, 2006 IP
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    Very kind of him to give us his home address, home and mobile telephone numbers and personal e-mail address. I see he dislikes dishonesty and hypocracy...well don't we all, shame he never practiced what he preached, unless he has turned over a new leaf. I know some people that are well connected at O2, I'll see if they know anything about his time there.

    Good work Agent 86, I'm sure M will be pleased.
     
    Kirkburton, Jan 27, 2006 IP
  13. Kirkburton

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    #573
    Andrew Morris is back!

    If anyone is contacted by a company called Web Gladiator do not deal with them. They already have a fan club which can be seen here http://www.webgladiator-seo.co.uk/

    The web gladiator site can be seen here
    http:// www.web-gladiator.co. uk/about_seo.asp (delete space between co. uk)

    Web Gladiator,
    The Basement, Riverside Studio
    Compstall Mill
    Andrew Street,
    Compstall,
    Stockport,
    Cheshire,
    SK6 5HN
    Tel. 0870 609 4505
    Fax. 0870 609 4506

    Company no. 3948123
    Vat no. 862081531

    The Company number given on their website actually belongs to a company called REIDY - MONAGHAN LIMITED from Dudley in the West Midlands and probably have nothing to do with Web Gladiator
    The VAT number is valid, But I cannot find out if it is connected any way to Morris, but i doubt it.
     
    Kirkburton, Mar 12, 2007 IP
  14. Old Welsh Guy

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    Interesting isn't it.
     
    Old Welsh Guy, Mar 12, 2007 IP
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    Lever Deep Thought

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    #575
    So what are the odds on some random new 1 post wonder popping up on this thread and singing the praises of web gladiator?
     
    Lever, Mar 13, 2007 IP
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    #576
    When Andrew morris visited us he made claims that he was working for REIDY - MONAGHAN LIMITED. He stated that Web Gladiator is a trading style of RML. When you look at the directors of RML they are also directors of WGL.
    as shown on www . webgladiator-seo. co . uk

    Rather than taking the money from credit cards he has now changed his tactics. You see people can go to there card companies and force the chargeback.

    Here is his new scam and I urge you not to fall for it, we very nearly did and could easily have been 18k out of pocket.

    Andrew Morris and Web Gladiator are now getting you to sign credit agreements with loan companies for services provided, now a few other people on the forum might be a bit more clued up than me but im sure you are not able to have credit or be given a loan for a service? ONLY for a physical item? ie something that can be recovered?? So WGL are claiming that you have purchased software from them. This software is there account for online access to the stats on your web site.

    Andrews Morris phoned us and told us we would be getting a phone call from the credit company to confirm we have a software license and software from WGL.
    WE DID NOT, HE WAS TELLING US TO LIE.
    The first loan/credit company called and we told them we had no software, only a username and password for a web site and when we logged onto the site we could not do anything, very suspisous the company refused the credit and ceased dealing with WGL with immediate effect, this should have started the alarm bells!!.. but didn't, WGL then went to another finance company, weatherbys finance. This finance company was supposed to phone us to confirm we had a license, not sure what AM did but the company did not phone to confirm so when they started taking payments of £500 from our account we had the bank return them and cancelled our agreement with them because they had broken the terms and conditions. We have never received any software license. Andres Morris promised once we had lied to the finance company they would be down to our shop to install software!!..

    still, this new way of fraud is shifting the problem from WGL to the finance company, instead of you loosing money to WGL your actually paying back a finance agreement with a finance company and if you did tell them you had a software license when you had a username and password that didnt work like us then you would be paying 500 a month for 3 years!,... £18k saved for us. We did lose £1k though by paying morris a deposit by cheque!..

    We had all the same problems listed in this thread, Andrew morris never in, misses having a baby, we've NEVER spoken to any other director as they have NEVER been available when we have phoned. and definately not a single competitive keyword on the first page of google.

    I found an user manual when logging into there web site for web position gold, obviously all there diong is running this per web site !!!

    Obviously several conversations then took place between my company and wetherbys finance, at one point WGL sent them a letter claiming they had built over 30 mini sites to link to our web site, when I checked them out and 26 out of 30 of these sites were hard core porn link farms containing spyware and browser hijacking coding!!.. none of them were linked to our sites, none are registered to WGL.

    The other 4 were linked to one of our sites.

    Contact me for any more information, I think if im not mistaked the last mobile number I had for Andrew Morris was 0792021298.

    Several phone calls, emails and letters followed to them but no reply.
    He's will come on here but when he's hid behind a computer!, he even says he has seen people face to face, I agree, you come to see us 2 times but this was before you realised you was ripping us off, if Andrew was to show his face in our shop again im 100% sure he would be leaving in an ambulance!

    regards
    Stung by Web Gladiator:
     
    WebGladiator, Apr 11, 2007 IP
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    Have you contacted trading standards, and the police? I would think this is fraud, it is not bad business practice.
     
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    Nope, from past experience contacting the police or TS has been a complete waste of time and I can't be bothered to waste my time.

    One day, AM and myself will cross paths again, I will take my £1k back then.

    I learnt a valuable lesson from AM!
     
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  19. Lever

    Lever Deep Thought

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    #579
    For a thousand pounds I'd happily 'waste' 5 days of my time.

    It's about the principle here... if you can't be bothered then neither will others, so if you think it's not worth it then just let it rest and those who took your money will take other peoples money and there will be one 'fat cat' and a lot of unhappy fools parted with their cash.

    On the other hand, you can spend a little time and effort into getting word out to the right people... what about contacting BBC's Watchdog? Let them know this thread so they can investigate the possibilities of a good story...

    Anyway, you could wait an entire lifetime waiting to bump into the perpetrators and it not happen or you could do something about it and have the satisfaction of seeing their face on TV for all the wrong reasons.
     
    Lever, Apr 13, 2007 IP
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    Hi All
    Thanks to the person who sent us the warning about webgladiator! We had worked this out anyway and cancelled a few months ago. The problem we have is that all the domains that they registered and mini websites are our property as per the contract as they failed in all respects. Trying to get the information out of them to enable us to manage them is impossible. Does anyone know if they are still trading? Andrew has left to set up on his own. Bet he will do well-he has the sales skills of a snake in the grass and customer services skills of a lump of coal.
     
    nelly, Apr 30, 2007 IP