Al-Qaida Terrorist Trys to Detonate Bomb on Northwest Flight Landing at Detroit

Yes, in detail.

Here's another news article talking about the scanner that can see under your clothes.

 

It's a scanner, not a microsope.

 

The problem with the Obama administration is that they are more concerned about proving Bush wrong than keeping America safe. This is evidenced by the decision of Attorney General Eric Holder to bring terrorists from Guantanamo and try them in US Federal Court in New York City. In WW2 when Nazi saboteurs were captured in Long Island beached, they were tried by military tribunals.

The Obama administration is in denial that we are in a "Global War on Terror". It doesn't fit in with their world view. After the attempted Christmas Bombing on December 25th both Janet Napolitano and Obama characterized the attack as a "lone wolf attack". It has come to light that a Somali man was apprehended last month with chemical powder and liquid last month. Further, information has been realized that there are as many as 25 more individuals that have been trained to attack planes bound for the US. In fact Al Qaeda has a scanner device and use it to train terrorists on dry runs.

1. Homeland Security Security Janet Napolitano said officials so far have no indication that the attempt by a Nigerian man to ignite an explosive device aboard a Northwest Airlines plane Friday “is part of anything larger”

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/1...evidence-yet-airplane-bomb-plot-part-of-anyt/

2. President Barry Obama - Finally, the American people should remain vigilant, but also be confident. Those plotting against us seek not only to undermine our security, but also the open society and the values that we cherish as Americans. This incident, like several that have preceded it, demonstrates that an alert and courageous citizenry are far more resilient than an isolated extremist.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/12/obama-remarks-on-airline-secur.html

http://www.globalconflictmaps.com/2009/12/29/napolitano-and-obama-emphasize-lone-terrorist-concept/

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-12/31/content_12731897.htm

Give the rest back to France. Louisiana legal system is under Napoleonic law.

 

In late December, this DAY by DAY report on how the Bush administration responded to the Shoe bomber.....shows that the Pres Bush was Christmas vacationing....basically not paying any attention to the Shoe bomber at all, anda the administration prosecuted this terrorist in a criminal case.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/12/28/820016/-Remember-Bushs-response-to-2001-Shoe-Bomber-Attack

Basically, in a situation that was incredibly similar....even similar to the fact that it occurred around Christmas time. The Bush adminisitration didn't do squat, raise a voice, scream and yell.....and then folks....it prosecuted this criminaly in a normal court.


All these claims by the 4 horsemen of Right Wing Extremism are simply mindless attacks.

They have ZERO idea on what is good/bad, how to run the government, how to be effective, how to get things done, etc.

They know one thing....how to go on the political attack.

hey 4 horsemen of Right Wing Extremism...since you got so outraged at the latest Christmas bomber...why don't you start screaming about George Bush doing nothing and basically ignoring the previous Christmas bomber...why don't you scream that after Bush finished his Christmas vacation in Camp David he went down to Texas and his ranch to further extend his vacation.

(boy oh boy) Don't republicans love to vacation and ignore terrorists!!!!

And then start screaming because the Bush administration justice dept prosecuted this terrorist in a court like any criminal.

The 4 horsemen of right wing extremist politics. What a bunch of worthless hot air.

 

Wasn't the shoe bomber incident like 3 months after 9/11, before the US started taking a different position/stance with regard to treating these people as enemy combatants vs. common criminals? As I recall he was charged and sentenced in a Federal Court and did plead guilt to all 8 counts. He did not have a judge enter a not-guilty plea on his behalf.

I really do not think we are comparing apples to apples here with regard to the post 9/11 treatment of war criminals, terrorists or enemy combatants.

 

Correct: Its not apples to apples. In December 2001, we were under the severist level of tension. One would think tough guy, President Bush, if he reflected the verbal attacks of Right Wing Extremists wouldn't have vacationed:

First in Camp David
Next he spent another week lolling around his ranch.

Some tough guy.

Some example of Right Wing Extremist attacks.

The right wing will take any incident anywhere and twist into some way to attack Democrats. The Extremists, weren't happy with f*cking up America during the decade of the 2000's:

They want to get back into power and will turn any incident into an attack on Obama and Dems.

What's going on....the right wing didn't finish its job of f*cking everything up the first time...and wants a second chance.

The concepts of the OP are so absurd...especially in light of a vacationing George Bush, for 2 weeks...scarceley referencing the incident, after 9/11 after the anthrax attacks.

What a bunch of hot air morons.

 

As I recall he spent a great deal of time working at his ranch, not lolling around. He's not the first president to do that. As a matter of fact, most of the dignitaries and foreign leaders he talked with came to the ranch as well.

I think Bush, not unlike some other presidents found it is was much easier to actually get work done OUTSIDE of Washington. That much is fairly evident given the huge contribution to world peace, the war on terror and increase in revenue we experienced during that period even amidst a near collapse of our financial system and grave uncertainty amidst the largest attack on US soil in our history.

Unfortunately having to work with democrats for any president is like having that wife that does not work and likes to spend money. They shop and shop and shop never contributing to any of the income.

Of course not all women or wives are like that.

 

what ? pakistani army fighting in afgan border ? LOL its because US said to do..otherwise pakistan would do ...it is a terrorist country

 

Why does anyone believe that Al-Qaeda was behind this attempted attack?

Al-Qaida does not attempt anything, they actually carry it out.

This kid had no chance of blowing that plane up. He didn't mix the chemicals correctly, which is why they only caught on fire instead of blowing up. Had he been trained by Al-Qaeda, they would have blown up. Does anyone know of an attack that was absolutely 100% for sure linked directly to Al-Qaeda that failed? No, I didn't think so. They don't fail. They successfully pull off every attack that is put into motion.

 

What you are saying is that "your" organization never fails?

 

Abdulhakim Muhammad -- Suspect in Ak Recruit Shooting Claims Al Qaeda Ties

Pvt. William Long of Conway was killed in the June 1 attack, and Pvt. Quinton Ezeagwula was wounded.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,583613,00.html

 

No, I am just being realistic. I am not one of those people who stand in the long security lines at the airport and feels safter. I know that it's all for show. That it's to provide a false sense of security so that people will not be afraid to fly. The more secure you think you are, the more money airlines make.

Security audits have been very clear about this. Airports are no more safer today than they were the day before 9-11.

 

Airports are very safe. No airport has ever been hijacked.

 

I dunno... I can see this two ways.

The first way says - the USA is taking terrorism seriously. Someone tried to bomb one of our planes, it's an act of war and the person is prosecuted like a soldier.

The second way
- Al Qada tells terrorists, "You are part of a great jihad. Die during this and there are virgins waiting for you. You serve the war and you are a great Muslim. You are a great soldier of the jihad and will join the honored dead".
- But the USA says, "You're part of nothing. You are not a soldier. There's nothing special about you at all. You're only a common criminal and that's all you are. You will not be treated like a professional soldier, you will get a civilian trial and be thrown in jail, where you will discover anal love in the company of inept thieves and common cheats".

 

There's a big focus on airplanes. What the US needs to do is start deporting non-citizens with un-american views.

Why did the US ever let the blind Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman into the US?

Abdel-Rahman and nine others were convicted of "seditious conspiracy",[2] which requires only that a crime be planned, not that it necessarily be attempted. His prosecution grew out of investigations of the World Trade Center 1993 bombings.

During the 1970s, Abdel-Rahman developed close ties with two of Egypt’s most militant organizations, Egyptian Islamic Jihad and Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya ("The Islamic Group"). By the 1980s, he had emerged as the leader of Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya, although he was still revered by followers of Egyptian Islamic Jihad, which at the time was being led by Ayman al-Zawahiri, later to become an Al Qaeda principal. Abdel-Rahman spent three years in Egyptian jails where he was severely tortured as he awaited trial on charges of issuing a fatwa resulting in the 1981 assassination of Anwar Sadat by Egyptian Islamic Jihad.

Abdel-Rahman was issued a tourist visa to visit the US despite his name being listed on a US State Department terrorist watch list. Rahman entered the United States, in July 1990, via Saudi Arabia, Peshawar, and Sudan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Abdel-Rahman

 

Hmmm, interesting.

Civilian trials require proof that a crime was committed, and habeas corpus is required (proof of a crime).

Historically, only military trials can prosecute ATTEMPTING to commit a crime. Habeas corpus is not required. Seditious conspiracy (Eisenhower, 1956) sounds like prosecuting an attempt to commit a crime.

 

Conspiracy only requires the planning of a crimminal act.