Al-Qaida Terrorist Trys to Detonate Bomb on Northwest Flight Landing at Detroit

the great war between God against Lucifer
they want to build The Babel Tower, to attach heaven

 

Another terrorist pig.
Was he a devoted muslim too on a holly mission?

 

If I was a nurse in the burn unit where he is being treated, I would call in sick before I would lay on hand on him to help him. I say give him only a stick of butter to lick and treat his own damn wounds.

 

"I took him in a choke to the first class and all the people were like, ‘What’s going on?!"
That fanatical piece of $&% was lucky a navy seal didn't choke him, he would be talking to his Allah now.

 

And how long did it take to get your country off it's ass and do that? Pakistan's weak attempt to say that they are helping is pathetic. And sooner or later a few Tomahawk Cruise Missiles are going to end up working their way up to Karachi.

 

Unfortunatly, talebens and the other Fanatical Believers didn't keep those S$%% beliefs for themselves only. Had they kept them, Afghanistan and Pakistan would be a perfect place to study how a backward belief system can bring down humans to pretty much enimal level.
Eye for an Eey, tooth for a tooth buy and sell their daughters as young as 10 years old to the highest bid.

 

Muslims aren't a race Major Malik Nadal Hasan claimed he had to kill his fellow Americans because he couldn't fight muslims. But Muslims have no problem killing themselves or even Christians that are of the same race as they are.

The "Muslim World" is getting poorer and basically they want we we have. Sure they have oil. However, they are running out of water. Yemen doesn't even have oil and they are running out of water.

Most of the water resources are being used to grow Khat a narcotic plant that most of the population chews all day.

The Obama Administration is trying to handle the War on Terror as a law enforcement problem. The primary responsibility of the US Government under the Constitution is to keep the country safe. The Obama Administration is spending more time trying to prove President Bush wrong. George Bush kept America Safe after 9/11. The Obama Administration can't make that claim.

The enemy combatants should be held at Guantanamo and Umar Farouk Abdulmutalib should be tried by a military tribunal. It doesn't make sense to try Foreigners in US Courts for attacking the US.

Umar Farouk Abdulmutalib is getting free healthcare at US taxpayer expense.

The US needs to start cutting off visas for the countries that are allowing terrorists to operate on their soil or have security problems.
Umar Farouk Abdulmutalib had a multi-entry US entry visa even though his own father warned the US Embassy in Nigeria.

 

Umar Farouk Abdul Mutalib flew into Detroit on Northwest Airlines from The Netherlands.

First of all, I think that the USA should suspend any direct flights from The Netherlands into the USA. It's pretty obvious that that country doesn't have the proper security in place. Let the flights have to go through another country before entering the USA or Canada.

Next, temporarily suspend Northwest flights into the USA. Where were the flight attendants during this little incident? Does Northwest expect passengers to provide self-service security on flights?

This will punish the incompetents in The Netherlands and Northwest, and reward other airlines and other countries with their airfares and landing fees.

Obama said "we will not rest" until all the plotters are found. Funny, he said this while he was resting in Hawaii.

 

Before you people want to go on about killing all the terrorists, nuclear bombing all the Muslim countries, or any other idea that would land you a D in a political science class, be sure to look at the man in the mirror, and evaluate just how different you think you'd be with a suitcase with a bomb inside it at a populated center in North Korea.

 

The problem isn't so much as Obama rather the Democratic party believes that Islamic terrorism should be dealt with as a law enforcement issue.

Janet Napolitano says the “system worked;” The kind of words that bring to my mind the other Janet - Janet Reno

Btw, I think that Nigeria was more at fault as Umar Farouk Abdul Mutalib boarded the flight there and he is a Nigerian citizen.

George Bush got it right. If we are not fighting the terrorists over there, the extremists will be attacking us in the homeland. If Bush was President Umar Farouk Abdul Mutalib would be in Guantanamo getting waterboarded rather than getting laywered up by a Public Defender.

 

@Bogart and @Corwin:

You guys love to make everything into a political issue.

Okay. Which administration ignored hundreds of signals, decided to completely look the other way from solid evidence and advice from the previous administration, had their NATIONAL SECURITY DIRECTOR turn her head at the threat of Al Queda, and end up allowing Al Queda Terrorists to hijack planes, kill 3,000 people, destroy buildings?

Oh yeah the Bushies. The GOP.

When this horrible attack was later studied, the Bush administration conveniently hid hundreds of pages of analysis from the public. You know...the kinds of analysis that suggested the administration was ASLEEP at the wheel and allowed terrorists to kill thousands of Americans.

Of course that turned out to be par for the course for the Republicans. The administration and its leaders and its yap it up followers mouthed off while Americans died here in the US and overseas.

Lets see. New Orleans was destroyed by hurricane Katrina, Bush is captured in a video being briefed on the danger, says nothing, does nothing, extends his vacation, does nothing to increase protections, and then flies over a devastated New Orleans like some Royal French King, who couldn't give a cr@p about the population.

Or overseas. When US military forces were being blown to smithereens by IED's, and parents were sending money and metal to their sons to improvise greater protection while the administration did nothing...and Rumsfeld responded to a soldier's question by saying...."you go to war with the army you have"....and Limbaugh was criticizing the soldier for being a mouthpiece for writers.....

US soldiers were dying and the GOP administration DID Nothing. Americans died.

It took public opinion and the actions of members of Congress to rush through enhancements and defensive measures that protected American soldiers better.

Not the do nothing GOP.

There is and always will be a terrorist problem. The Obama administration must maintain ever vigilant mechanisms to combat these problems, as did the prior administration.

You want to point the finger.....The Bush administration was asleep, didn't care, ignored signals and allowed 3,000 Americans to die because of terrorists.

And you guys like the GOP....shame shame shame.

 

Oh sure, and you don't? Reading your posts, you may not always have the answers, but guaranteed you know who to blame.

At least Bush had the excuse that it had never happened on such a scale before.

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

Apparently, Bush's above words of "wisdom" do not apply to Janet Napolitano. The system worked.

Oh, you mean like Obama?

Apparently the Obama admin is not sharing intelligence information about any of the ongoing terror investigations with Congress, including the Pakistan 5, the Fort Hood asshole, and the most recent Christmas plane incident. Perhaps he is having their fingernails pulled out in secret interrogation chambers? It amazes me how unevenly party zealots(you) are willing to apply their standards.

Well there you got them. The change in tone by this administration has certainly yielded better results!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/21/top-cuban-official-calls-_n_399970.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...ama_to_satan_it_still_smells_like_sulfur.html

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091223/ts_nm/us_iran_nuclear

I also have to appreciate Obama's rapid reversal of Bush's Iraq policies and immediate withdrawal from Iraq. He is following the plan laid out by Bush to the letter.


So lets go through it. Bush does it... Bad. Obama does it.... Good. World leaders (Chavez, Castro, Ahmadinijad) hate the US during Bush's presidency, it is because of Bush. If it happens during Obama's presidency, it is because they are evil? Lack of intelligence sharing under Bush... Bad. Lack of intelligence sharing under Obama.... Good? Tarp 1 under Bush... Bad. Tarp 2 & Spendulous under Obama... Good?

What you need to do is pull your head out, and define some general principals that you are willing to live by, regardless of who is in office. Napolitano saying, "The system worked" the day after a guy gets on an airplane with enough PETN to blow it out of the sky is obviously STUPID, regardless of which party controls the white house. If you are so blind you can't see that, then I have GOT to come up with a website to market products to people like you, because you will buy just about anything so long as it has the right party label on it. The Democrat Shamwow.... The Democrat Snuggie... The Democrat Slapchop ... The Democrat Dreamie...

Here is a thought. I wonder if the re-appearance of a PETN bomber had anything to do with this.

 

@Abomination:

Ah, the 3rd leg of the mindless attackers of anything Democratic. Can't wait till the 4th horseman attack/mouth, Mia, joins in the attack.

Bogart created this thread and Corwin joined in to take the most recent terrorist event and turn it into an attack on Obama and Democrats.

Do you people with an all-attack mentality have even a shred of brain power.

Lets see the Bush administration had a significant volume of evidence and warnings about an attack from Al Queda, clear warnings of the imminent hijacking of a plane, a load of experience from the prior administration that Al-Queda was utterly dangerous, and decided to ignore all of it.

3,000 people died because they were sleeping on the job. Their own National Security Advisor at the highest level for protecting the US ignored the warnings.

Yet the 4 horsemen mouthpieces attack Obama and Democrats. You might notice, I didn't mindlessly defend Napolatino's statements. Her comments were in error. Our defenses need to be ever vigilant.

Of course what would you know. You neither read or ignore enough here, so that when I posted in a different thread about airport security wherein New attacked the Israelis, I pointed out the endless killings by Muslims on other Muslims and you wouldn't acknowledge my comments. Typical GOP attack mechanism. The GOP administration didn't defend the US against Al Queda in the first place, then didn't go after Osama Bin Laden when it had him trapped in Tora Bora in Afghanistan, allowed him to escape and establish a freely undisturbed center for encouraging terrorists in Pakistan, started a war in Iraq that had nothing to do with Al Queda, ignored growing Al Queda presence in Pakistan and elsewhere, and put the US into 2 wars that are still waging. You know.....the longest period of warfare in which the US has ever been engaged.

And the 4 horsemen of endless GOP attack drivel attack Obama and Democrats.

Maybe we should add the destruction of the economy which occurred under the Bush watch and via Republican political economic policies. These aren't realistic economic policies....they are a transference of political bullsh!t into the economic environment allowing financial entities no oversight while they egregiously create a financial bubble.

Maybe you should stick to the other thread on airport security started by New and acknowledge that when Muslims try and turn every incident in the world into an attack on Israel or the US they are diverting from what are serious efforts to protect people.

Similarly maybe you should look at this incident and not turn it into a mindless political attack but recognise that the West, the US, and the world are faced with endless terrorism and all efforts must be made all the time to confront it and defeat it.

Its too bad the 4 horsemen mouthpieces find every incident of terrorist activity to be a reason to attack Obama and Democrats....when in fact during the Bush administration and the reign of the GOP....

1. Al Queda successfully attacked the US while the Bush guard was down
2. The lazy (chicken hearted?) Bush administration didn't go after bin Laden when it had him surrounded in Tora Bora.
3. The Bush administration ignored Afghanistan for 7 subsequent years, allowing the Taliban and Al Queda to gain strength, didn't push the Pakistani's to confront the Taliban and Al Queda thereby giving it years to recover and gain followers.


Meanwhile, its interesting. It appears the US, under Obama is participating in some way with the Yemeni and Saudi governments to take on a growing Al Queda presence in Yemen. Since Al Queda operatives were responsible for blowing up the USS Cole in 2000...and since the group has only grown since then and since the US evidently didn't participate or do anything to encourage taking on this force during the past decade until 2009...it seems there is but one more example where the GOP administration and its mouthpieces....talked tough and did nothing.

Again its Obama's responsibility for picking up the pieces where the Bushies didn't do squat and leave Americans subject to ever more danger.

Instead of playing endless attack politics on Democrats why don't you mouthpieces look at real problems and suggest real solutions rather than the political attack drivel you endlessly mouth off.

 

There you go again. The "backward looking" democratic party. If we were to look backwards as you would have us do, we would see the Cole incident you just mentioned happened under Clinton's watch..... Asleep at the switch? Failure to act? Two US Embassies bombed under Clinton's watch... Asleep at the switch? Failure to act? No, you would rather cherry pick history and frame it in whatever light suits you so you can avoid focus on the present.

Personally, I don't think Clinton gets all the credit for the economic boom, or all the discredit for the multiple terrorist attacks permitted under his watch. I don't think Bush gets all the credit for recovering from the Internet economy crash, or all the discredit for housing crisis. The same rules will apply for Obama. There are things that each of these administrations did to contribute to these triumphs and calamities, but to give them full credit is just demagoguery.

The funny thing is, failure to set your own values, independent of political party, leaves you and the ruling Democratic party looking backwards. Its like you think you can avoid taking ownership of this ball of shit in 2010, while you control both houses of congress, the Presidency, and pass every piece of legislation without a hint of compromise. It is going to be pure comedy to see the 2010 elections. You do realize Bush isn't running ... right?

 

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/12/29/terror.suspect.online/index.html

Keep in mind that its places like these and others where most of the nutjobs that frequent DP's P&R Forums come from!

 

@earlpearl

Barry Obama needs to come out and say the truth that the follwing three attacks are Islamic Terrorrism:

1. Fort Hood terror attack, Major Nidal Malik Hasan November 5, 2009 in coordination with terror imam Anwar al-Awlaki in Yemen fatally shooting 13 and wounding 30 at Fort Hood in Texas

2. Muslim attack on Little Rock Army-Navy recruiting station -Jun 2, 2009 Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad, opened fire at an Army-Navy recruiting station in Little Rock, Arkansas yesterday, killing one soldier and critically injuring another.

3. Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab - the underwear bomber attack on Northwest Airlines Flight 253 over Detroit on Christmas Day, December 25, 2009.

The issue is that the Democrats believe that this is a law enforcement issue and they are trying to carry on with the same policies that failed under Bill Clinton.

Osama Bin Laden may be in Iran. It just turned up that after years of denial by Iran that Osama's children have been in hiding there,

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin and Gov. Kathleen Blanco are to the blame for New Orleans. Ray Nagin is no RUDY GULLIANI. 50% of the New Orleans Police force either deserted or joined the looting. Gov. Kathleen Blanco refused President Bush's offer to nationalize the Nation Guard and restore order. Bush's mistake was not to use the Insurrection Act and restore order. The situation was crazy. The New Orleans Police were disarming law abiding citizens that have every right to have firearms to defend themselves and took no action against the looters. Just goes to show you that people need to be responsible for themselves. When you rely on the government when day you maybe 'assed-out'.

 

Reading an article today about a high tech airport scanner, they mentioned Abdulmutallab, saying they would have caught him with this. It's like a scanner that can see under your clothes, but there is some resistance because it's an invasion of privacy. It shows a picture of them scanning someone in the article, and they look almost nude (at least to me). Do you think this will become common?

Here's the article: MSNBC

 

Can they see my big willy ??

 

I believe it is a high resolution scanner, so yes.

Security screening happens at the port of exit(Lagos in this case) for most multi-segment flights, unless you leave the terminal(not sure if that happened). I also believe the US requires random searches and carry on bag inspections at the gate for every flight entering the country. I can't see how the gate procedures would have caught him, but decent procedures properly followed at Lagos could have had a good chance of keeping him off the flight, IMO. There certainly is a lot to be looked at, and El Al doesn't seem to have a problem keeping flights safe with the information at hand/obtainable via espionage .

Checklist:
1) Male between the age 18-35 : -10 points
2) Black or Arab heritage: -10 points
3) Passport with Pakistani stamps: -5 points
4) Passport with Yemeni stamps: -15 points
5) Passport with recent Yemeni stamps: -25 points
6) Name on the watch list (not the no fly list): -50 points
7) Muslim : -10 points
8) Ticket purchased with cash: -15 points
9) No Baggage: -10 points
10) Muslim with radical views: -50 points


Scoring
0-20 points - minimal screening
20-45 points - further questioning, additional screening, intensive luggage search
45-60 points - Body cavity search with lubricant
61-80 points - Body cavity search without lubricant
>80 points - Escorted out of the airport by security

 

Bingo... 72 hours to respond to this latest disaster and people made fun of Bush for not going ape shit the instant he was notified on 9/11... Go figure.

There's a huge double standard in terms of accountability and job performance. The reality is, compared to Obama GWB looks like a friggin genius, while Barry and Janet look like a pair of fucktards.

Yeah, Chocolate Ray fucked that one up, as did the entire state legislature, and their Democratic Governor on down the line. To date, they are still not quite getting it. Still no action with regard to the proper appropriate of public funds, of which they received billions over a 60 year period to incorporate into building up their levy system. The best the US could do is take over the ports at the federal level and dissolve the state of LA entirely to Texas.