Airline pilots don't believe in official 9/11 version

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by demosfen, Apr 22, 2007.

  1. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #21
    I'm not interested in the cherry picked "findings" of a few people. I'm interested in where the thing is. If it didn't hit, it -has- be somewhere, right? Where is it? It's a pretty simple question.

    The site you show ignores pictures of the crash, eyewitness accounts, debris found at the scene etc.

    So, again, where is the plane? The people? Dead? Alive? On UFO's?

    I've previously posted pictures of impacts that clearly show the plane hit. I've also previously debunked every conspiracy site that people have posted here; I'm simply bored by that now.

    I wanna hear your thoughts on where the plane and people are? Subjected to anal probing perhaps?
     
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  2. akula

    akula Peon

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    #22
    How about you dispute their findings and backing up your wild ass guesses with some "evidence"....

    Who sold you your crap? I have talked with Rob in great length. So who and where did you buy your crap from? Have you even thought this through yet?

    Interesting topic but nothing to do with this post.

    Lets try and stay on track here (I know it dosent work for your attempt at derailing this but...) and discuss their findings and you can provide a rebuttal.

    Here let me help you

    Their findings are false because......


    edit*** Oh and your "cherry picked" findings are nothing less than lies used as government evidence....
     
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  3. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #23
    The thing is when you pay for it it must be the truth? ;)

    By the way, a nice marketing stunt :cool:

    Why do "experts" need to charge for their findings? Seems a bit tricky to me. And why do they want to present it this way to common folks? - will that add credibility?

    Would not be surprised when others pop up charging the similar amount of money to debunk it though.
     
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  4. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #24
    Yes, it is interesting. Because the plane has 1) never appeared anywhere 2) the people have never appeared anywhere.

    That's crucial, if the plane didn't hit the pentagon, isn't it?
     
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  5. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #25
    because they cant find the fuckin plane
     
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  6. akula

    akula Peon

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    #26
    Again stop with your childish attempts to derail the topic. If you can't debate the finding of the FDR by the PF911T then bow out and quit trying to misdirect.
     
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  7. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #27
    As long as you have no answer to a pair of very simple questions. They aren't difficult. If you believe they didn't hit, they had to have at -least- landed somewhere right? Where did flight 77 land? That's even easier than my previous 2 questions.
     
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  8. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #28
    Who you think has any flight time as a pilot here? Do you have any? Don't you see the strategy of this stunt? It's money making, selling stuff to common folks who truly can't discuss about certain details. It's a bit too obvious.
     
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  9. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #29
    200 million blockbuster sells for $15 huh did their movie cost them 200 million?

    the experts you are using cant even find the wreakage in the pics that are showing it.

    yes or you would be admitting that you're to stupid and paid for crap:rolleyes:
     
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  10. akula

    akula Peon

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    #30
    Nope nothing to do with the topic at hand. If you cannot discuss their findings then don't, but it has nothing to do with you trying to switch the discussion to something else entirely.

    Really?

    They are making millions huh?

    Is that your guess?

    Sammie quit with the strawman arguments. They do not mass produce this documentary so costs are high.......but you knew that (at least I hope).

    We are not talking about wreckage, as much as you guys want to......

    Yes or no, are you going to EVER address the topic of the FDR?
     
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  11. Toopac

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    #31
    The facts are already out, everyone knows them, it's documented in hundreds of hours of video & by eye witnesses.

    Since you want to deviate from the truth maybe you could answer where the plane went, where the people on that flight are, then think to yourself how could a government pull off an enormous task of fooling billions of people but a few find the truth by paying money.
     
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  12. akula

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    #32
    What strategy?

    Are they the only pilots/flight professionals in the world?

    LOL nice conspiracy theory you have there.....

    I am not a pilot but I do have some aviation experience and many flight time hours as an aircrew. I know some about calibration of avionics and acceptable ranges of them. But no I haven't much more knowledge of this than anyone here.
     
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  13. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #33
    the topic at hand is flight 77, now if you cant accept the fact that your pf911t are selling you crap, thats your problem, any question pertaining to flight 77 is on topic

    anyone trying to derail it is you, but not being able to reply to 4 simple questions,
    #1 where did flight 77 land if it missed?
    #2 where are the people?
    #3 why do fp911t ignore the pictures with the wreckage in them?
    #4 why is Rob from the pf911t selling you crap? and not sat in a cockpit? is it because it pays more?

    :eek: i'm on the wrong side i gotta make up crap to sell to fools about 911.

    naaa sorry, my morals wouldnt allow me to stoop that low.
     
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  14. akula

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    #34
    I know this is tough but how about you discuss their findings.

    Lets just take the argument that this FDR is not actually the FDR recovered from flight 77. So that is why the flight path, altitude etc do not match up with the other "evidence". You can at least start an argument there.

    WRONG
    This topic is about the findings and accusations made by the group of professionals pilots over at PF911T. They make no claims to know where F77 may have went.
     
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  15. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #35
    We are not talking about wreckage ???? wtf, you just cant ignore the facts, dont you see that they are playing you because you are being groomed to ignore the facts too now

    wreckage is wreckage you cant just ignore it :rolleyes:

    dont you think thats stupid?
    you wanna talk about go back over there and talk about it. no-one here accepts their crap but fools
     
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  16. akula

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    #36
    No I do not think it is stupid. In fact it is a common phenomena that humans fail to focus on the important details of a subject and instead always try and look at it in its entirety to make sense. People always dismiss very relevant facts in its detail because it dosent fit with their current thought paradigm. Edward Bernays figured this out all too well.
     
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    #37
    Their findings are irrelevant, given that a plane did hit the pentagon. If they can prove that a plane did not hit it, please explain where it landed, and where the passengers went. It didnt just evaporate did it?

    Isn't this crucial to back up any of their findings? If not, then you should really look into fuel usage and the need for a plane to land.
     
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    #38
    That's the whole point, what could of possibly happened to the plane, crew & passengers if that plane did not hit the building? do you think they are all at the White house? c'mon you can say these pilots never mentioned where the plane went but it relates to their story.

    These pilots can claim what they want but there are other pilots who clearly disagree otherwise we would have hundreds or thousands of pilots saying the facts don't add up, correct?
     
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  19. akula

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    #39
    Are you even capable of discussing the topic or do you only have one area that you are able to discuss?

    This is why investigators do not work backwards from their initial "hunch".
     
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  20. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #40
    #1 what happens when a plane stalls? the engienes stop, the plane does not fall outta the sky because the motor stopped running.

    #2 thats like saying 100 pounds of TNT will still weight 100 pounds when it went bang. :rolleyes:

    #3 the no wreckage claim is here, so you cant tell us we cant mention it or ask questions about it when they ignore it in their findings.

    #4 the cruise missile that zig zagged 7 times and hit 6 objects before it hit the building? who the fuck is living in cloud coo koo land here?

    yup dismiss the images of wreckage, dismiss the plane and people would still be around. ;)
     
    samantha pia, Apr 22, 2007 IP