I have a site, that i want to be listed at least in TOP 10 So i figured that since all the competition Pr are around 5-6, why not aim for PR 8 (website is currently pr4 and not even showing in keyword ranking). I have a couple of questions: 1. If i obtain PR 8 in the next update, how high do you think I'm going to be listed in Search engine Keyword search Dominated by pr 5-6 websites? 2. How much effort, money and time wise will it take to move up from PR 4 to PR8? 3. Any guess of how many back links, or how many pr 5+ link i should get in order to get pr 8 ?
I think it cost alot of tim/money/effort to make that happen, I dont know about the other 2 questions. I wist you good luck, by the way, which site are you talking about?
You would probably need several hundred dollars worth of PR links to get to PR 8, you might only end up with 7, 6, etc.
If you want to be in top 10, why are you bothered about getting a high pagerank PR is nothing to do with rankings, focus on getting RELEVANT links, forget about pagerank if you want to rank high. Buying PR6-7 links from a random site with nothing to do with your site, isnt going to help you get in top 10. Look for authority sites in your niche, and don't walk away from relevant PR0 links, just because you can't see no green on the PR bar
Then what was the PR system implemented for ? if it has nothing to do with ranking ? i thought PR was a way to measure the importance of your website on the web, and the more important your website is, the more chance you have on getting listed in keywords your sites is about in addition of relevant back links.
PR and serps are not related at all. SERPS are all based on getting links from authority sites with your targetted keywords. Plus you need to take into consideration on page optimisation too. A site with a high PR need not have a high SERP.
1. You will notice no difference This is because SERP constantly integrates the real time PR to show the results. Therefore, by the time you see the toolabr updates, most probably the SERP already inherits the actual PR. 2. Certainly more than 200% the effort you are doing now. 3. Find a PR8 page. Analyze its inbound links using Backlink analyzer or Yahoo site explorer.
Increasing PR will not help you rank any better. Getting relevant backlinks from trusted sites (sites that already rank well for the sector) will help you rank better. Getting this links will also increase your PR, but its the relevant links, NOT the PR that is going to help. If you went out and bought a bunch of non-relevant links it will increase your PR, but not your rankings. Going from a PR4 to PR8 would require you to get about 1000X more backlinks than you already have. There is no set number of PR5 links because it depends on how many outgoing links the PR5 page has. Each page can pass approximately 85% of its PR - but that PR if divided between the number of outgoing links i.e. a PR5 from a page with only 1 outgoing link passing 10X the PR as a page with 10 outgoing links. You are likely looking at spending thousands of dollars to obtain a PR8 - and you also have to factor in the domain age along with the sector. A sector like loans is highly competitive and the average age of the top ranking domain is approximately 10 years. Some of these top ranking sites have full-time in-house SEO with six figure budgets and it would be virtually impossible to compete with them. I would forget about your PR and concentrate on making your site an authority site that competes with the best in the category - one that people will naturally want to link to.
looks like that what I'm about to do from now on. thank for the info all really helpful. i was about to spend ton of time and effort on something that wasn't really going to help me.
Personally it would cost you a good amount of money and to spend $100k's for just trying to rank high in the search engines plus get a high PR is very risky. You should spend the money on actually getting your link put on sites that receive alot of traffic and any PR gain from that or link popularity should be a bonus. At the end of the day Google controls how and where sites rank, so one day you could have spent $100k on seo and a few days later Google could have changed their algorithum and you could be nowhere to be seen again.
I think having a high PR is a worthwhile investment. You'll eventually earn it back by selling links. Although I agree with all the posters that SERPs is much more important .. you can get tons of traffic if you have a great ranking .. and we all know traffic converts to ad earnings.
as far as i beleve one pr7 link is as good as 100 pr5 links. more over if a website with pr5 gives only one backlink then it's better than a backlink from a pr8 website with a 100 backlinks. pr5, is easily possible for you as you already have pr4. just get 10-15 backlinks from pr4 and pr5 websites, do some link exchange and you will make it. then from pr5 to pr6 is not that easy. you need traffic and content to get that. along with backlinks you also need to write quality and unique content to get pr6. here you need to get some backlinks from pr 5 and pr6 website also. pr7 is available only to some websites which are really really big. for that to happen, you simply need to do expence. you will have to buy links from sites like yahoo........costs arround $300 yearly links. you need to get a lot of such links to get pr7. pr8 honestly, not much site is available with pr8. sites like dmoz etc get's this kind of pr. i don't think you should aim this straight away, forget pr8 now, get till pr6 that will do a lot of good. and most of all you need your keywords in top 10 on a page for the search of the related term, right. for that, just do some link exchange, and ask your link exchange partner to simply give you a backlink, by hiperlinking your keywords that you want to improve on rankings. by the way, if this is your website, http://www.smazs.com/ then i feel, removing the "," commas from the title will make a decent improvement. just remove the commas and put there "|" symbol, and then your rank will improve a lot. best of luck, regards,
Thanks for the advise every one, and Uttoransen i will do so. trying to find where the symbol is on my keyboard. i will just copy and paste from this thread.
PR8 needs at least 100,00+ quality backlinks and a lot of good updated content, dont forget cnn was a PR 8 until the last update... its almost impossible to move from a PR4 to a PR8 in 1 year... unless you get a few PR9-8 to link to u
mainly content, unique contents. then you need backlinks, from pr3,4,5,6 sites then your pr may get increased from pr4-5 or to 6 but it will take time, about 6 months atleast, if you start today.
To rank with such keywords you have to improve your link popularity with your targeted keyword as you anchor text...IMO you have to target first those keywords with not much of competitors then after you've been successful on that then that will be the time to target those popular keywords... To obtain this you have to improve your link popularity...link with high PR sites...but i'm not sure if you'll obtain this on the next update...one site that i know that got a PR8 is SONY A LOT... Not sure about this one...