ok well the domain never expired and still has till May on its current registration. I did use the wayback machine and it used to be an art/graphics related website.
NO, its value can be reset if you change your domain whois details IMO. Solution: change the whois details of your domain one by one. First change the technical details, then after 2 months change billing details and then after couple of months change the administrative contact details. IMO do not change the host, content(copyright footer, headings etc.) and registrar at once too.
Its not the details changing that retires the value. Here is how it works. A domain is registered in 1998 and is kept for yrs until 2006. It is then hosted. Google starts the age at 2006 because that was the first time any activity was seen on it. Google gives age to a site that has been around a while not a domain. It figures a site gets smarter and more efficient, more informational and more useful over the years overall. However if a site is registered and hosted since 1998 as soon as google indexed the site the value started then and continues till today. Even if the site is sold and transferred to 20 people along the line. As long as the site is never dropped from the registrar and is transferred correctly it retains all its value. But again remember domains have no values it is the site on the domain and when it was started. This value is only part of the factoring which make up the Google algo but old sites sure have a heck of a lot going for them in more ways than one. If you can get ahold of a good site 5-6 yrs old take it. They can be invaluable but again have to be sites. No that is bull. Sorry but that is mis-guided info and could mess people up. Please don't give info like that without doing research.
so many people on forums give out inaccurate information. at least he's giving out inaccurate info that's conservative, instead of saying something that could hurt you is just fine
ok so the domain did have a site on it since it begain according to wayback machine. so i can change the whois info, registrar, and host and should be safe. what about changing the sites content other than loosing any rankings (which i doubt it has) would this cause any negative effects
Who are you talking about? Any rankings it has now will continue over when it is transferred. Nothing will change there. I wouldn't change the content too much. Changing the way the site looks a little but keep the same structure and DON'T go deleting or massive editing of pages or you will lose all those rankings. Changing a few things is fine but massive editing of a site can make it lose its value.
I wouldn't change anything straight away. Change the contact details yeah, but slow and steady wins the race here this is good and sounds informative, but I don't agree with it. Did you know Google is a registrar? so they could sell domains if they wanted but the reason/rumor why they became one is so they could get exclusive domain information. Have you heard what Matt Cutts did at the site review in Pubcon!? scary stuff. I'd say the age of the domain comes from the age-creation date of the domain because Google will of found a way to monitor this with Google-bot
Your right they could but that is the keyword could. Why would they want to? What use is it? Does a older domain make a better site? No there will be no difference as the webmaster has not put anytime into until they start the site so it is only logical on googles part to only track site age not domain age. Google uses the registrar info to check for spam, and alot of useful stuff not just age.
I also bought a 3 year aged domain. I actually went into the sandbox, but only for 2 months maximum. having an aged domain, along with regularly updated content is a good combination for avoiding the sandbox or only temporarily being placed in there.
Not true. I registered a totaly new domain and went for a competitive phrase and got out within 1 week. Age of domain is none-influencive in sandboxing.
so you do agree they use it for age!? i agree they'll use it to check for spam too, for example how new a site is, so if domain14infwemok.info is a week old with 1,000,000 pages of unique content. That'll raise a few alarm bells and also any known spammers registering domains in there name will probably have a careful eye cast over them is that a mirror behind you or is Big Brother watching?
As discussed, the domain age only matter when it was (a) registered and (b) indexed by Google. And then the age of the domain will help a lot in terms of influencing the effects of any sandbox. And I have bought several domains that have been expired and yet I continue to rank for several competitive terms. So my experience is that if done right even expired domains can be beneficial but not for the faint of heart.
visio, As already said you have the right to disagree..... You may wanna check these google patents :- http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph...04".PGNR.&OS=DN/20060095404&RS=DN/20060095404 http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph...59".PGNR.&OS=DN/20060095459&RS=DN/20060095459 http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph...86".PGNR.&OS=DN/20060095586&RS=DN/20060095586 One can fall back in sandbox if the domain's whois info is changed. I have seen it on quite a few times. Anyways, I could be wrong as usual.....
I've replied to you half a dozen times about this now but you never respond just because you got traffic on new domains does not mean the sandbox has nothing to do with the time the site's been in the index, or that it doesn't exist at all. you can rank fine with new sites... it's just a whole lot easier with older sites. you can user super, super aggressive tactics on older sites without them being hurt at all. those same tactics would tank a new site-- that's what the sandbox is; it's google putting new sites under much more scrutiny.
Not for a regular un-hosted domain I don't and I know for a fact they don't. Yes if the domain expires and is re-registered quick that can happen but be careful as you can lose it right after purchasing. Sorry but I know for a fact your wrong. If I don't reply just scream at me. I sometimes miss people No you missed what I said. I didn't say ranked. I said index & ranked for competitive phrases. That is out of the sandbox. There is no way a sandboxed site can do that.
well when refering to the sandbox i am refering to the part with linking. I tend to be agressive when building my links (no i dont use automated exchanges) but i do tend to do alot of link exchanges (all related sites), submissions to 250+ directories, article submissions ect. I heard that with an aged domain that..... 1. Its easier to rank for competative keywords 2. You can be more aggressive in your link building before raising any red flags For instance with my last 6 sites 4 of them had over 1200+ backlinks in Yahoo and 2000+ in MSN in about a month and a half.