After so much proof Islam is not the best philosophy how many islam followers have ch

1. Since this is not guaranteed, you have (quran has) left too many voids for muslims to abuse them. There is no clarity on who executes the punishments, so anybody can pick up a pick-axe and go swoosh... After all, regardless of how strict the chopping laws be, they are barbaric in the first place. It's a different matter why quran leaves so many loop holes.

I studied quran from a book called quran and my first impression about it was pretty nasty. So, don't be under any false impression that we are imagining things about quran and islam.

 

@agent.x It doesn't matter sects & bull it matters that this lunatics kill & maim . One good Muslim in 100 idiots won't make the difference . As long as Islam will have this type of abominations and laws that oppress freedom the stigmata is here to stay .

 

Why would I go to a Muslim forum? I don't want anything to do with them. I think that countries that have fallen to Islam are the worst places in the world; legal marital rape for one thing - Menj says that it is impossible for a man to rape his wife as they're married. Would you agree? Or do you believe that rape is rape, even if two people are married?

 

emmm your sat saying you wouldnt want anything to do with them but you would because your on here talking and debating with Muslims..

So why not just go to the forum and clear your misconceptoins up?

 

Yes there is clarity once again lack of knowledge.

Are you sikh? hindu?

 

When was te last time you heard of a beheading in saudi? and the time before that?

Stoning without proof is just taking it to the extreme.

Chopping someones hand off when they are repeat offenders (thieves) yes it wont grow back but they wont do it again either hence why gold shops and the likes can be left open without a single person in the shop with millions of pounds of gold and noone takes aything

In the UK you cant even leave your window open or leave your cat outside nevermind leaving a gold shop open..

 

Your bumping your post count. Make one post.

I go here to talk about politics mostly, however when I see a bunch of people talking crap, I'll comment on it - which happens a lot around here. I'm saying that I would not go out of my way to go to a Muslim forum, they're full of idiots in my experience - I did go to one, when I was staying in a Muslim area. I was disgusted. (This was during the Lebanon/Israel war a few years ago.) They were sick animals - some of the shit moderators were saying was just ridiculous.

Beyond that, are you afraid to answer the question? You expect me to answer yours but you wont answer mine?

Is it that you don't know the answer, or just that you're a coward?

Also, while cozying up to Menj/Awins, you should be aware he runs a crappy porn site and posts pictures of feces online. If you're into scat though, go for it.

 

Yes mutilating someone because you don't want to bother whit security is the humane thing to do . Ever heard of something called jails ?

 

And I class you as non-Muslim, kafir.

 

First claim is patently false, while the second claim is partially true, simply because I can. Also, I am not a "he" either, but these jokers think that just because I'm married to their "bogeyman" (even though he isn't aware of what I post), it means that he has access to my account.

And considering the load of bull being posted about Islam (hint: see what was posted before this one), you still wonder why the Muslims on DP don't bother going to P&R? Not to mention the experience with Muslims being limited "to Muslim areas where [you] once lived" (which I assume must be in Australia). Pfffttt....you really haven't been outside much, have you?

 

@the guy in his wife burqa : How many infraction have you received today Menji ? Keep it up whit the personal attacks and you'll have another propaganda account banned . How will you spew your hatred then ?

 

It's not false and you know it's not false.

As to you being menj, who else but menj would try to give himself some kind of status by referring to himself as a "bogeyman" while discussing his porn "empire"? No one here, that's for damn sure. ^-^;

I'm also not talking about why Muslims don't go into P&R - I'm talking about the Muslims that do and yet still do NOTHING about these issues. If I were a Muslim (or any other religion) and a fellow Muslim said "The Qu'ran says I may rape my own child, even as an infant, if my wife denies me sex. It also says I may hit her if it will prevent divorce. This is best." - then I would be spending the same energy on them I did on everyone else in P&R I thought was a scum bag. It would falsely represent me - if I did not correct it, I would be, in my inaction, accepting it. You waste so much time trying to convince Atheists that Jews are evil and Atheists are scum - but when a Muslim says shit about raping babies or beating on women, you don't do a thing. THAT is what I have a problem with - the Muslims who are already in P&R, who sees these threads, yet sit there and do nothing.

As to where I've lived; you assume wrong. I have been to Muslim areas in Australia, and it's absolutely feral - creepy mother f'kers yelling sexual crap at my 12 year old sister who, despite how you imagine Western females, was in long pants and a long sleeved shirt. It's clear she was a child. It's a few places OS I'm referring to.

So I guess that makes your assumption about me going "outside" pretty much BS too, eh?

Never mind - maybe next time.

 

Obamanation and babak are the only true muslims on DP

 

Use the search function - you'll find the wife beating thing easily as the asshat spent like 20 posts explaining why it was allowed as a last resort to stop the woman from getting a divorce. The rape posts you'll have to look a little harder for as there are only 3 or 4, but you'll find them.

You twisted my quote. I said OS. Overseas. Why are you ignoring that, exactly and pretending I only mentioned Australia? I specifically stated that the Muslim problems here are NOTHING compared to OS.

I discussed LIVING in Muslim areas, OS, not visiting Muslim areas in Australia, as my point. What part of that do you fail to understand?

You're just so thick sometimes. The only contact with Muslims is living in their area? How do you think you have contact with other Muslims? You have contact because you frequent the same places - you daft, daft person. >.<'

 

Indeed Menji you are right . All those people that have been brutally slaughtered in the name of Islam are liars .

 

Not interested in doing your homework, sorry. Regardless of what was said, however, Islam does not teach such things and you don't need another Muslim to come and waste time repeating this over and over again.

If I misunderstood what you said, its your own fault. You didn't name your precious OS, OS areas...all you did was speaking in general terms. Those OS places must be countries, I am sure. Name them.

Not really. I have contact with them because Muslims here are in the majority...you can't turn your head without bumping into one. Hence why we don't need people to come and waste time repeating something we already know it isn't true in the first place. Why would you need someone to come in and (asssuming your story is true, which I doubt) admonish the other for something untrue and which you know is untrue, is quite beyond my ken.

Not as daft as you are, that's pretty sure.

 

Meji daft ? How could that be ?

A self-righteous wanker that post envenomed hatred daft ? It would take a really really blind looser to be daft . Meji's beyond daft his one of nature's GFE .

 

It isn't my homework, or my problem. You're saying you don't believe these posts exist, I'm saying you're wrong - use the search function. Or continue to be wrong. It makes zero difference to me whether you bother to get the facts or not.

It's funny - you get all worked up when an Atheist says something about Islam you believe is false and cry and scream about it for countless pages - yet if a Muslim says something you claim is false, you don't give a damn. If every Muslim is as lazy as you when it comes to stopping others claiming to be Muslims making them look bad, then you lack pride in your religion and your culture. I wouldn't blame you for it, it's just weird to hear that you have that little respect when a Muslim is saying crap about Islam. Perhaps I'll convert and then make posts about how Mohammad raped a child and you'll keep your mouth shut. (Obviously only making a point as I'd die before converting, however this is effectively what you are saying.)

It's not my own fault that you chose to ignore the OS reference and then deliberately cut off a quote mid-sentence to try and make it fit your purpose. I'm more than happy to talk about places I've spent time, Islamic places, Jewish places, etc. - however you going; "Name them." Isn't going to make me name them. When you're requesting information from someone, you ask them for it. Simply demanding it makes you look like a brat. If you'd care to ask I'm more than happy to discuss it, well, some of it - I'm happy to name places, at least. One post I previously made about something I witnessed, with a friend filming, was mysteriously removed >.<' The rest, fine.

When I said you frequent the same places as other Muslims, I meant that as the majority, you will run into each other everywhere in your day to day life. This is a reality for anyone in a Muslim country, whether they're Muslim or Atheist.

By your own admission in a Muslim country you have a lot to do with Muslims - that's just a fact - yet you find it unthinkable that this would also be true for a non Muslim in a Muslim country. Why is that exactly? How is it any different, beyond the fact that as a non Muslim you typically avoid certain areas when possible?

You aren't always this daft but today you seem to have this real insanity going on. Posting vulgar pictures and talking about men and women here masturbating and trying to claim that as a Muslim you only care if non Muslims insult Islam and wouldn't do a damn thing if someone claiming to be a Muslim insulted Islam. You're either losing your mind, or you're on something.

 

I'm sorry, but I am not the one getting all worked up because you saw a Muslim making statements which you know is factually untrue. You told me a story about a Muslim making such claims, I said I do not believe you, and that is because of your far-from-not-tainted history in P&R....you can hardly blame me for something which is based on your own behaviour. Usually its the person making the claim who would go about furnishing the proof...that is convention for a positive claim. But you suddenly want to claim that "t isn't my homework, or my problem", as though I was the one making the claim.

And I already said that regardless whether your story is true or not, one does not need to go around combing every single thread where a Muslim makes an incorrect statement and publicly post a disclaimer. Why would someone want to waste time refuting something which you and I already know its false to begin with? I have better things to do with my time.

When someone make statements about how Islam should be eradicated to ensure world peace, or the Prophet Muhammad PBUH raped Aishah RAA, and many other statements reminiscent of Islamophobia, it is within human nature to feel outraged and respond in kind to such bigotry.

Already covered above.

An atheist is telling me that I "lack pride in my religion and culture", when all the while I make the effort to develop this. I'd be more than happy to post about how Muslims don't rape little children, or how some Islamophobes believe that nuking 1.6 billion people will ensure world peace, at a later date...if that will satisfy you. I won't be surprised, however, that you would start demanding other ridiculous and time-wasting things-to-do, even after I were to do this. Let's see whether I am proven right or otherwise.

Either you name them or you don't name them, or you can't name them. Make your pick. Going off in a huff and name-calling me a "brat" (I'm 29 years old, by the way....much older than you are, I'll bet) and other endearing terms is not exactly a valid escape tactic.

 

@the guy in his wife burqa : You're the one getting worked up . Why else would be posting looong posts ? Also you're overestimating Islam . You got about 1.26 billion Muslims worldwide .