After so much proof Islam is not the best philosophy how many islam followers have ch

After so much proof Islam is not the best philosophy how many islam followers have decided to leave it?
If something gives you the feeling over and over again it is not right wouldn't a normal person give it up?

Women stoning, no freedom of speach, sex with children, "honor" killings and etc. to name a few reasons.

 

It is next to impossible to compile a world wide statistic regarding that problem simply because the majority of the Muslim world has strict censorship laws .

 

Would you like to give the reference to me and other Muslim members that where did Islam allowed the following thing?

Women stoning
no freedom of speach
sex with children
"honor" killings

As a Muslim i need reference from Quran and Hadess. So please give me reference of the above mention things.

 

Stoning:
Ibn Ishaq (970)
http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/A_Brief_Analysis_of_Muhammad’s_Farewell_Sermon

Child sex:
Qur'an 65:4
"Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same): for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens: and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy."

Obviously there are more disturbing verses but I think this one is excellent as it proves the point without discussing "thighing". If you have sex with a kid you wont know if it's pregnant or not if it hasn't started getting periods yet. Charming!

The rest can wait, I'm half way through uploading an App and need to work out my screenshots - but those two should give you something to QQ over.

 

How about this silly news about Honor killing in Islam. Alexis has pointed out much of what you asked, the rest can wait.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/09/20/3016288.htm

 

As a muslim, you just need a bomb and an AK-47 to kill the OP. hehe. Come on, you claim you are a muslim. Haven't you read quran anytime?
A side note: Has any muslim asked mullas for proof when they preach about the shape of the earth, or that there is only one God, and that how is quran right?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha#Age_at_marriage

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As there are many false sites who has changed the verses of Quran. Go for some valid sites

http://www.submission.info/servlet/qtbrowse
http://www.oneummah.net/quran/65.htm

In this Ayat Surah Al talaq (divorce) chapter 65.4, God is telling us the rules of divorce. And its clearly mentioned that all those woman {should wait for 3 months as Idaat (waiting period for another marriage)} whose 1) menstruation started 2) whose menstruation not started yet ( it doesn’t mean that a kid, it mean those woman whose periods are delayed due to some reason) 3) those who are pregnant ………….no 1 and no 2 should wait for 3 months and no3 the one who is pregnant, should wait till birth of a child.
Plus there is no such mentioning or giving promotion to child marriage in Quran. Here u r completely taking the meaning of a ayat out of context.

There is no such thing in this ayat that “a girl who has not attain puberty yet” its about the woman’s period. There are lots of woman who some time don’t have periods for 2 or 3 months due to any reason. This rule is given for those and not for kids.

Where is Islam in the link you provide?

I think this section is specially formed for mature discussion not for childish mind of people

 

Islamic brainwashing techniques are very difficult to overcome as they start molding the child's psyche while the brains is still developing. Hence many adult Muslims seem unable to see even elemental problems with their "philosophy"

 

@Vebtools : bull - I just took a look at my Coran at 65:4 and it states about "wifes that have not developed that of which makes a woman" . So girls that have not even hit puberty . PedoBear loves you guys .

 

And I hope you don't think this is childish.

circumcision ceremony of Sultan Ahmed III's three sons.

I understand why Pakis blame me. But you are still a mohajir. Why have you avoided answering Has any muslim asked mullas for proof when they preach about the shape of the earth, or that there is only one God, and that how is quran right?. You silly Mohajir.

 

Please read Post number 7 again

What should i do with this?

I have Quran, i have no need to go at Imam to ask about it.

I think this section is specially formed for mature discussion not for childish mind of people

 

There are number of reasons why it is very easy to enter Islam but very difficult to get out of it
1) The most obvious one is the killing bounty under honor by sharia law.
2) Loss of Islamic Family and friends
3) Job loss from the Islamic country and possible deportation.
4) continuous fear, threat and attacks.

May God unwind the chains of Islam.

 

.... I'm sorry, what?

I know that sex education is Islam is poor to nonexistent, but surely you realize that for a woman to go three months without a period either means she is pregnant or a child - right?

The only exception is when a person is on medication to treat certain conditions, the result of certain incredibly rare diseases, or if she is deliberately skipping it by using the pill and skipping the red sugar tablets.

Given that the pill and these drugs weren't around when the Qu'ran was supposedly written, why exactly would there be a clause about a woman not bleeding for three months when not pregnant and not a child?

Even if we ignore this - how old do you claim Aisha was when she got married? 18? If no, then she was not an adult.

OR - if you don't like that - how come there are still Islamic countries where there is no legal age requirement for marriage?

 

@Vebtools Let me explain it in a simple way . I took my own Coran from the Bookshelf opened it found no. 65 read it including passage 4 and saw the big fat "wife that has not developed the characteristics of a woman" . Now either you call some inflatable Barbie doll wife or you're married to a prepubescent girl .

@alexispetrov By the way this people are talking , does it sound to you like they've ever been whit a woman in their entire life?

 

Oh I'm sure they haven't - I often wonder if that is why the punishment for adultery is stoning to death - it would stop women from cheating and discovering that their husbands were incompetent as lovers.

Then there's the fact that Muslim "men" are allowed to rape their wives - if a couple are happy, in love and he isn't a total dud in bed, sex is a non issue. Yet they need a clause >.<'

I'm totally imaging a Muslim guy trying to have sex with his wife's ear because it's all covered up, all is "private parts" if you'll forgive the infantile expression - I'm pretty sure at some point in history a Muslim male has confused orifices. XD

 

That's what I wonder. What are you doing here? Read your quran if you can (I doubt if you Pakis can really understand arabic). If ever you did, you will hang your head in shame. That book taught your father to regard your mother like a whore. You can come up with a boat full of verses from that junk manual to defend it. But that's the whole point, that you have proved true to your religion and let your mother down.

By the way, your wails that I am immature will only prove your retardation and cave temperament. I know it's painful to see everyone clubbing against you, but this is what everyone is advising you against. You can still be a civilized, progressive person living a happy life where no one can point a finger at you plainly because of your religion if you follow those of muslims who chose to walkout of the hell and into civil society. Till such time, I sympathize with you.

 

That sums it all up for the beasts

 

Seems that someone is putting his own foot into his mouth. Why does someone need to understand Arabic when there are literally various translations of the Qur'an in many languages? If one wants to take it further and learn Arabic, he/she is of course encouraged to do so, but it is not required if one doesn't have the time.

Wrong again.

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet (s.a.w) said, "The one who looks after a widow or a poor person is like a Mujahid who fights for Allah's Cause, or like him who performs prayers all the night and fasts all the day." Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 64, Number 265​

Last I checked, widows are women.

The Prophet (s.a.w) said, "Allah has forbidden you (1) to be undutiful to your mothers, (2) To withhold (what you should give), (3) demand (what you do not deserve), and (4) To bury your daughters alive. Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 73, Number 6​

Pretty self-explanatory. Now who is really retarded now?

 

Where does it absolve your father who is authorized by quran to treat your mother as a whore? This is why I said you people will come out with boat loads of irrelevant verses which fail flat out. I talked of mothers being ill treated by their husbands - not of widows by their children (Allah has forbidden you (1) to be undutiful to your mothers, (2) To withhold (what you should give), (3) demand (what you do not deserve), and (4) To bury your daughters alive. Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 73, Number 6).

For one more time, you have let your religion and mother down. So what use having different translations if you don't really understand it?

 

There is no verse in the Qur'an which tells the husband to "treat the wife like a whore", so it is obvious to me that you have never read the Qur'an. Ignoring the hadiths cited earlier does not help your lies either.