After his hand was chopped off, college sacks lecturer

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    Adding insult to injury, a Kerala college has sacked its lecturer whose right hand was chopped off by activists of radical outfit PFI for preparing a controversial Malayalam question paper with alleged derogatory references to Prophet Muhammad.

    The management of the Christian-run New Man College has informed T J Joseph that he had been removed from September 1 on the grounds that he had hurt religious sentiments, college sources said on Saturday.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ecturer/articleshow/6492127.cms#ixzz0ycQ9DNRo
     
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    Toopac Peon

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    It would be so funny if it wasn't so sick.

    He gets to explain why he should keep his job because some religious people have had their "feelings hurt", after he has had his arm hacked off.
     
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    #3
    Makes it pretty hard to not develop a stereotype for certain countries when this kind of stuff goes on. Very bizarre from my perspective.
     
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    it career Notable Member

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    #4
    Whereever peaceful religion people crosses the threshold of 25% of total population , this is bound to happen , it does not matter whether it is
    state of kerala or state of ohio ,etc.
    Now do not be surprised if it becomes like another kashmir where 300000 hindu pandits were driven away , raped or murdered by peaceful people.
     
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    The 3,000 Muslims celebrating the recent murders of four Israeli's -- one of them a pregnant woman -- pushed me over the edge. I'm not sure where I am now, but I know something has changed and there's no way to unchange it.
     
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    #6
    You all are behaving very immaturely. I actually do support this action against him. This is a wrong statement:

    A correct one would be like:

    Schools/colleges are not places for religious teachings/preaching religious hatred. The teacher abused his position and got sacked, nothing controversial about it. I'd have done same...earlier.

    Regarding having his hand cutoff the culprits are already in prison.
     
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    #7
    Do you know what this so-called "religious hatred" consisted of? Or are you just being reactionary and hysterical?

    He wrote an exam question.
    Religious hatred, or gross overreaction?

    And also let's not pretend that he was actually fired for the question. He was fired because the authorities wanted to appease a bunch of violent, bloodthirsty thugs. They even said "If the Muslim community exonerates him, we will think about taking him back."
     
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    #8
    that is surprising, the state of kerela is mostly catholic
     
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    56.2% Hindu
    24.3% Muslim
    19% Christian

    But, it only takes a few machete wielding believers to screw things up for everybody.
     
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    @Stox I haven't found any credible information regarding the actual content of the question paper, does wikipedia cite any references for that statement?

    Though even if thats true it sounds to me like a sneaky way poking fun at Muhammad (what do you expect children to write in the dialogue?) While it'd be okay if he had done so in his personal capacity as a private individual, its not okay when he does it in his capacity as a teacher employed by a school. Action is justified.
     
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    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/controversial-question-paper-lecturers-hand-chopped-off/642261/

    Children weren't writing the dialogue, they were punctuating it. The dialogue was based on a script from a film in which an unnamed character has a conversation with god. In the dialogue which was used for the exam he gave the character the name mohammad.

    Claiming muslims have any right to be angered by this is like claiming they had the right to be angry when a teacher called a teddy bear Mohammed. It's a very common name in that part of the world and muslims DO NOT have ownership of it.
     
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    In this case though I really cannot even to begin to understand what the outrage is about, with the teddy bear thing (and even though it is ridiculous), I do get the point why Muslims are supposedly "offended".

    Mohammed teddy bear = Saying the bear is Mohammed (Muslims like Mohammed and believe it is disrespectful to him)

    Mohammed having a dialog with god = So? :confused:
     
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    It's not as if there is only one prick named Muhammad. That's a pretty popular name among the primitives.
     
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    As usual, not looking at the other side of the coin. Can we expect militant atheists to report the news correctly without bias?

    Source
     
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    Sorry, are we supposed to applaud or something? Condemning the cutting off of someones hand is normal. It's what normal human beings do. The fact that you felt the need to highlight it shows just how untypical it is of muslims. It was so out of the ordinary that you felt the need to highlight it.

    "look everyone, they condemned something barbaric"... well done, have a cookie :rolleyes:
     
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    Maybe you are blind or illiterate to see the hate-tripe being posted above mine in response to your "news highlight" (which involves Islam and Muslims), hence the need to clear the air and post the news report on PFI's open condemnation of the attack. Your rather convienient omittance of the fact that the PFI are not a "terrorist organisation" as implied throughout this thread, but a humanitarian one, lays further doubt as to the "sincerity" of your report.

    Coincidence? I think not. Your pattern of picking and choosing isolated incidents such as these to attack Islam is consistent with the diatribe of your fellow militant atheists on DP. It is fortunate for mankind, however, that there are people who do not believe that Islam (or for that matter, religion) is responsible for violence, as so consistent with your methodology. The off-hand retorts and implied remarks about Muslims being inherently violent isn't exactly helping your cause either.

    I would say that such biased reporting is hypocritical and bad journalism, don't you agree?
     
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    So if I chop off someone's hand and then apologize for it after it gets worldwide media attention, it's all good? Sweet! Time to sharpen up the butcher knife!
     
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    I never said the PFI were a terrorist organisation. In fact i don't think i even mentioned them. Being so quick to counter imaginary criticisms makes me think you have something to hide.

    I'd like to thank you again for highlighting just how typical this kind of barbarism is in islam though by highlighting their condemnation of it, As though it was so out of the ordinary that it needed to be highlighted. I think that says a lot more about islam than anything i could say.

    Let's all give them a round of applause for reacting like normal human beings for a change... :rolleyes:

    Incidentally, what do you think about cutting off someones hand for using the name Mohammed?
     
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    Perhaps you will get the same attention if someone were to chop off yours.
     
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    Let me see...you don't think PFI is a "terrorist" organisation and yet in the same breath, you also said:

    1. "highlighting just how typical this kind of barbarism is in islam"

    (Implicitly saying that Islam encourages this kind of barbarianism, and PFI is clearly an Islamic movement.)

    2. "...though by highlighting their condemnation of it, As though it was so out of the ordinary that it needed to be highlighted."

    (PFI condemns the attack, and you see it as "out of the ordinary" because they are an Islamic organisation. And what would be your excuse if they did not?)


    I would say that you already said more than enough for me to recognise you as an Islamophobe. If a Muslims condemns terrorism, you will say that it is "out of the ordinary" and if he/she doesn't, you will say that they condone it. Damned if they do and damned if they don't!
     
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