The forum owner himself is a theif! I emailed him askin for a invite he replies me wat a fraudulent forum LOSERS!
^^ Sounds more like your pissed because he asked you to pay for an invite. Its not a forum first off which shows what little you know. Although there is a forum attached. Bottom line, I proved my point, AffiliateTrades.com is just like any other "freebie site." So calling AffiliateTrades.com a scam site is like saying TRAINN and all of the other freebie networks are scams. But hey, your entitled to your own opinion.
ok let me clear u You say its not a forum then u say there is a forum attached ? you lost ur brains or something ? btw Money isn't the factor, I can pay him $20 for the invite but whats the point when the admin himself is asking money for an invite ? btw I know why you are bitching around ? just because you are selling the invites in the BST section isn't it ?
^^ Ha ha, you've got the most oddest ways of making me laugh with your dumb comments. ITS NOT A FORUM! The site is a script that was custom coded in order for people to trade with each other. Its NOT A FORUM ALONE! So I think you lost your brains if you couldn't grasp that concept. So why are you calling them a thief. And its their site, if they want to charge for a invite, they can charge for an invite. Honestly, the whole "buy an invite" came about on DP and I'm sure they picked it up from there. So if they want to charge for an invite, then so be it. Its their site, they can do what they want. NOT TO MENTION, THEY'RE UPGRADING TO A VERSION 2 IN A COUPLE WEEKS WHICH WILL BE MORE ENHANCED! Me bitching around, lol, your such a comic in all actuality. I'm not bitching around, I'm trying to prove my point that AffiliateTrades.com is just like every other freebie site, even though thats not what "MaxBounty.com" wants to hear. I explained the similarities between AT and a freebie site and they still don't want to hear it. For the last time, I've proved my point. "Trading Offers" is like "Trading Referrals" on a freebie site, they're both the same thing. So you tell me, are you just mad because you couldn't get an invite or because my point is clear enough to understand and it can't really be debated. Like all other topics, this issue is going nowhere so just drop it...
Actually no. AffiliateTrades is nothing like a freebie site. Your argument saying that if THIS website is ok, THAT should be ok too, is false since you aren't comparing the same thing. Lucky for all, the benefit of YOUR doubt is irrelevant. The end results from AT are that pubs with little or no traffic of their own complete offers with bad data just so that others will do the same for them, generating a bulk of fraud. We see the data, so we know without a doubt this is true. Don't you think that if it were otherwise, we'd welcome all these extra leads instead of warning people not to try? There's no argument or discussion here. We're telling you if you generate "traded leads" via AT, you'll be terminated. If you refuse to accept the reason, so be it, but don't come crying to us afterwards that you were treated unfairly. Furthermore, we will pass personal information of any affiliate found commiting this type of fraud to the sponsor victim so they can pursue the matter further. Don't be a fool. If a network is telling you that AT leads are highly suspect, that you will not get paid for generating them, and furthermore that someone will eventually take the legal fall for all these fraud leads... don't you think it might be wise to pass on it? If you don't pass, and continue to knowingly generate these leads, you are directly commiting fraud and are no better than someone using a stolen credit card online. It's a crime and will be treated as such.
B.S. AffiliateTrades.com is like a freebie site, your just to blind or deaf to see and hear what I'm saying. If 2 people connect to trade freebie sites, they're completing each others offers. The same is going with AffiliateTrades.com ... have you never heard of "Referrals for Referrals?" Hell, even people needing referrals are paying cash and other gifts to complete referrals. So tell me, what makes you think that there is no difference? Okay... problem one, if most of the offers are incentive offers, these leads should be allowed! Do yourself a favor and find the definition of "incentive." You should see what I'm getting at. And by what I read on many other forums, MaxBounty is blinding your vision as an "affiliate manager." Apparently, no more then 40% of click-throughs should generate as leads or else MaxBounty.com will close the account. What kind of weak garbage is that? Maybe thats why drag0n got denied... you should definitely think about your business module again. Be happy that you get more then 40% leads. Your either trying to "cap" on someone's day to day work or just scamming yourself. But that's off topic on what we're talking about. Bottom line, it doesn't matter, if a merchant allows incentive-traffic, then there should be no problem with AffiliateTrades.com ... reversing back to what I said, find the definition of "incentive" and then tell me, what makes AffiliateTrades.com for posting up "incentive friendly" offers. And for those who post up NON-INCENTIVE friendly offers, thats at there risk. 1 person shouldn't blimish an entire community.
lol. this is the best read I've had in a long time. There is nothing illegal about my web site. offering "points" is no different than offering an "ipod". look up the definition of incentive. give me another year, and watch AffiliateTrade's logo next to the definition The companies that are ok with incentive friendly offers are looking for phone numbers and addresses. hey, let the spammers spam the spammers! $500-$600 bucks a week to threw up an incentive friendly offer on AT, then go to sleep? And if you cant pay a one time fee, to make money for life? Then get off the net. go back to mommy ;-) --=Shane AffiliateTrades.com
Again - I don't know how I can be more clear here - we've seen leads generated through trades at AT. The data is crap or the leads cancel right away for whatever service they signed up for. The end result is that virtually all the leads are useless to the merchant buying them. This is NOT simple incentive marketing, it's coordinated fraud, and will be treated as such.
I'll be sure to send all of the members of AT your way ;-) All 353 as of right now. --=Shane AffiliateTrades.com
Call me an a**hole, but thats just about ANY incentive website you go to that offers prizes or cash. People complete the offers, and then either cancel or something along those lines. Thats my point, people don't care about offers on incentive sites. All they care about is their reward. So if AT is along those lines, then maybe you need to attack people like TRAINN, MacroBucks, ClickPerks, V-Bux and the list goes on.
You hit the nail on the head BusinessMinded. That is all AffiliateTrades really is - an incentive site for internet marketers. marketers are a dime a dozen now a days. The same amount, if not more than the people doing offers for a free ipod online. AT is no more than "You scratch my back, i'll scratch yours." If there was away to seed out the people useing non-incentive friendly offers, i would. but you try going threw 1000+ post, and 100+ new post everday. :-| i say let the affiliate managers seed out the bad leads - like they have been doing for years. my $0.02 --=Shane
^^ And not only that, but I want to make a comparison. Take AffiliateTrades.com where you trade for points to get a few dollars from the incentive offer compared to TRAINN or MacroBucks or ClickPerks or whatever where you trade to receive $50 per referral. Now which site do you think people will choose and first and trade a lead that could have false info in it? I'm no rocket scientist but my bet is leaning towards none other then the freebie sites. No pun intended on AT Shane... sorry
There is no real need for me to defend my website. It stands up on its own with hundreds of memebers backing it up every day when they sit down in front of there computer and login.
Hundreds of crack-heads can line up at a neighbourhood crack-house looking for their fix. That doesn't make the crack-house a legitimate business establishment or a valued member of the community. AffiliateTrades is for "affiliates" who are looking to make a quick buck by defrauding merchants because they're unable to earn money through real affiliate marketing. I've been shown the offers posted on AT and nobody uses incentive friendly offers. It's all EDU offers, Credit offers, and people asking others to click on their adsense links. I know which campaigns allow incentives, and none of the ones being offered on AT do. If your site is so legitimate, why is it invite only? Why do you instruct people to not use their affiliate links so that they don't get caught by networks? And why do your members post their URL's in such a way that the URL has to be typed into the address bar to eliminate the referring URL? Hmm? Or if I look at your help file you make available for your members: http://affiliatetrades.com/ATHelp.htm You'll find this useful piece of information in the Strategies section: Very nice of you to recommend identity theft. Your site is fraud. Pure and simply. I know it, you know it, and your members know it.
your just mad cuz i thought of it first. lol j/k want me to take AffiliateTrades.com down? becaues you think its fraud? teaching someone to do something is not illigal. i told the memebers to use incentive friendly offers only. information is ok no matter what it is teaching. DOING is not legal. i'm not doing anything. the memebers are.
i'll tell you what, 25K and i'll sell the site to you. better hurry before i turn AT into a paid memebership site. because then its here to stay
Intersting to note that this site is now for sale on Sitepoint. http://www.sitepoint.com/marketplace/auction/21182
are okay if it suits the program - like CPA stuff - and if TOS does not specifically say it is not allowed. Most CPA account sallow incentive offer but you must tell them what it is usually
Places like CPAStorm, and SAS have side notes as to "Cash incentives", and "POINT incentives" and yes the site is up for sale. its at its peek right now too, but i want to start a biz off line. and get away from the computer. --=Shane