affiliatetrades.com = theft = fraud

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Steven Sauve, Feb 15, 2008.

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    To anyone reading this thread, or any other thread regarding affiliatetrades.com invites. TAKE CAREFUL NOTE that using affiliatetrades.com to generate leads for a network DOES break the terms of service of all affiliate programs and WILL get you terminated and WILL lead to your loss of any money that you earned in that affiliate program.

    Using affiliatetrades.com is fraudulent, and is the equivalent of stealing from merchants.
     
    Steven Sauve, Feb 15, 2008 IP
  2. ktmonline

    ktmonline Well-Known Member

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    i agree sir..
    guys stop this maxbounty is here and other affiliates network are also watching..so be careful about it.
     
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    kerozin24 Active Member

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    I was banned alredy from Bounty for this!
     
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    stupify Peon

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    what about incentive offers? still illegal?
     
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    Only use this with incentive offers.
     
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    markyd Active Member

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    ^^ Exactly, but using it to do things like get leads is against terms of service. Also, some are asking people to click adsense ads :eek: just be carfeul :)

    Regards,

    - Mark
     
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    thewupk Peon

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    if it's incentive it should be okay since that is the whole point of it being incentive. you give something away from them to complete the offer.
     
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    drag0n Banned

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    You got banned because you used non-incentive offers!
    If you use incentive offer and you get banned then the affiliate is a bad one, not recommended!

    The only thing I agree here, is the people asking for google adsense clicks will be banned for sure.

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    And to you Mr. Steven, MaxBounty is the BIG FRAUD i had an account there, got legally leads using adwords and what is my surprise when I suppose to get the payment? i got banned for no reason no explanation.
    +$1000 in the account, you are the ONLY FRAUD here
    and next time open the thread in the right forum , this is BUY/SELL/TRADE
     
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  9. BusinessMinded08

    BusinessMinded08 Peon

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    Yes, many people ask for AdSense clicks which could get them into trouble. The owner of the site clearly makes it clear in their terms that you must use ONLY INCENTIVE FRIENDLY OFFERS! There is nothing fraudulent about AffiliateTrades.com ... they also say that if anyone asks for offers to non-incentive sites that they're doing it at their OWN RISK!

    So nothing is fraudulent about it Steven so please stop trying to prove the point that they are fraudulent. And I agree with drag0n, next time, you may want to post this in the correct section. Not Buy/Sell/Trade...
     
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    getjimmy Prominent Member

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    I do not agree with u,the owner himself do not follow his forum rules,i just logged in to his forum and found that he himself asking to click on his adsense ads.Below i have quoted his post.

     
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    bestdj Banned

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    Thread reported.
     
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    BusinessMinded08 Peon

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    getjimmy... notice he is doing it at his own risk! There is nothing fraudulent about the site itself. Back to what I said, some people may get into trouble but its not a fraudulent site. You base one person's actions to be the same for others.

    Either way, there is nothing wrong with the site though, yet if my mind serves me right, weren't you one that was needing a invite and trying to find one.
     
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  13. getjimmy

    getjimmy Prominent Member

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    Ya owner of the site doing fraud and u think nothing fraudulent about the site,cool.

    R u kidding dude,i never asked for invite here,i joined Affiliatetrade the day after it was launched and Yes Shane (owner) himself gave me invite on other forum.
     
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    drag0n Banned

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    There's a difference between owner doing fraud and the website is a fraud!

    I know that the owner gave some points for people to click on hes own adsense, but if you use the site the right way, THERE's no fraud!
     
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    Maybe I mistakened you for someone else, but you sitting there flaming the site because the owner took the risk themselves doesn't mean anything. You blame the site and its like blaming all the members on there. All 325+ members.

    That's like saying if Shawn (owner of DP) was to get arrested for drinking and driving (not that he ever would, I don't think) - then all DP members are getting arrested. You can't blame an entire site for one person's actions. Leave it at that...
     
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    getjimmy Prominent Member

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    I never blamed all 325+ members,i only posted and quoted about the owner (admin).
     
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    Could've fooled me, I can this topic is getting nowhere... just leave it alone
     
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  18. JP Sauve

    JP Sauve Guest

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    I think the point trying to be made is that regardless of whether solely incentive offers are being advertised via AffiliateTrades, if the intent is to get people (webmasters or otherwise) to sign up to these offers with absolutely no legit interest in the nature of the sponsor's campaign, the vast majority of leads will be bad. Traffic from AT or otherwise, if the vast majority of your leads are bad, something's up and you won't get paid. If you're knowingly generating these bad leads, you're committing fraud, and you better hope you're not the pub the network decides to make an example of.

    And no, saying that it's merchant's fault for accepting incentive traffic doesn't absolve the affiliate of their responsibility. Just because a campaign accepts incentive traffic doesn't give the publisher to right to knowingly ream the sponsor with bad leads... and as an owner of a network, I can tell you that we've investigated this. Say what you want BusinessMinded08 or others, we've seen these leads from pubs using AT are crap, most are fake fraud data or 100% immediate unsubscribed sign ups.
     
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  19. BusinessMinded08

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    JP... so all of the leads that all of these freebie sites are garbage as well, right? YET! Those "incentive offer" merchants keep accepting a majority of them. How can you call AffiliateTrades.com a FRAUD when all of these freebie sites are doing the same thing. They trade referral for referrals, not caring what kind of offer they do but more on getting that one more referral for cash.

    Take sites like TRAINN, V-BUX, Git-R-Free, etc. People do referrals for referrals on these sites (trading) which is the same thing that they do on AffiliateTrades.com ... sure some people may not be interested in the same offers but the same goes with the freebie sites, nobody really has an interest in an offer, just complete one so they can get one completed for them. Yet merchants keep accepting these sites. So what makes a "freebie site trade" and a "affiliatetrades.com trade" any different?

    Answer that question thoroughly and just MAYBE I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
     
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    dairyman Notable Member

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    Thanks a lot for the information. I think our dp members will tread very carefully after this episode :)
     
    dairyman, Feb 16, 2008 IP