Hi there, First of all, I offer my apologies for being new to this forum - I only stumbled across the site recently as I have just started to actively market over the last two months. I am looking for affiliates and/or marketing advice for my horse racing tipping website (www.laythebest.co.uk). I appreciate that this is a taboo niche, so it will not be everyone's cup of tea, however here are the facts to date: * The site was established in June 2006 and originally sold a betting system eBook product (Paypal sales only) with the only marketing strategy employed being Adwords. * I recently converted the site into a tipping service based on the original eBook and have decided to switch to Clickbank to gain affiliates. * Since the re-launch in August 2009, I have been proofing our results to the Racing Post (leading newspaper for the UK horse racing market) and I will be advertising with them by the end of October 2009. * The new landing page has been converting really well, with 1 sale being made for every 21 hops (Results based on 2 Clickbank Affiliates, as I have only just started to look for affiliates.) * You will receive a 50% commission of sales on a monthly recurring basis for the life of the customer. Sales are £50, so after Clickbank fees, you will receive around £22.15. Our customer retention rate is very good (94% of first month customers stayed on for the second month), as our results are genuine. Now about me - I am an experienced horse racing professional with over 25 years of experience. I am very customer service orientated and I am very confident that customers referred will stay signed up for a very long period. I am more than qualified to operate this service successfully; however I have no web design or marketing experience. The website has been developed for me and I am now looking for affiliates and new ways to market the website. If you would like to be an affiliate, or you have any constructive advice, please PM me or reply to this thread. Thanks for taking the time out to read. Paul Simmons www.laythebest.co.uk
Read your website... Question time You offer a £5 tip trial day, will affils get some of this or is it only the primary sale. If they choose to try it out for a day do they then have the option of upgrading - in which case you could follow the affiliate to pay them the right amount or will they need to re-signup - in which case the affilaite will lose the full payment and reccuring payouts since they will go via the main site again unless you have a tracking method... Manged accounts they have to email you in order to ask about getting this are you tracking the affilaite link via this?... so if they use this route you really should add another contact form or use an actual hyper link (people are lazy) to the contact form. will affiliates be getting payments for this managed accoutn arrangement? and if so will we get upsale since your getting £30 minmum with a bank roll of 300 required (sorry no idea what that means) every month your controlling the persons account?. As for the main page, you dont really talk about what you can do for them need to add more hype and say what you say in the faq on the front page. You know the saying: First tell them what your going to tell them Tell them Tell them again... Summarise what you told them lol , if your promoting through clickbank how you going to work the 60 day money back garentee, heck thats 60 days of apparently bank busting profits they can recall? [Never done recurring sales so have to tell me if they carnt refund these or something] Thanks
Legendery11 - Thanks for your response - not too sure what hibaby's post is all about, but in reply to your comments: The free trial is a one off £5 payment, although to be honest not many people have taken this up - I will most likely scrap this and just offer a free trial for anyone that does ask. All customers that sign up for the monthly service though have to do so through the homepage, so yes any affiliates who have refered them will receive the commission as long as they sign up within however many days Clickbank's cookie lasts (30-90 days?). The managed account option is seperate. This is only open to 25 customers and 23 slots currently taken, so you can almost disregard that section. In answer to your question though, I manage the customer's betting account and they send a profit share, so it is almost impossible to find a solution to tie this in with affiliates, although as only 2 slots are left open it doesn't make too much of a difference. With Clickbank's recurring payments, they can only request a refund for the last subscription fee paid - I don't fully understand your question with that, as it isn't a concern of mine. Any customer's requesting a refund will simply be trying it on, so undesired customers. I appreciate your comments regarding the landing page, I will see if I can hype it up a little more. Kind Regards, Paul
Well if customers ask for a refund though clickbank, clickbank just LOOOVES to give them the money back so we lose the money as affilaites and then you loose money not only as a vendor but they got a month of free expert betting advice. When you build the affiliate section will you be doing the old banners, keywords routine? Or going to go all the way with templates, articles to rewrite and a thin like 6 page guide book on what your products about so we sound like experts when we sell it. I have 2 sites to finish off, then i have dandruff site which i might be swapping to petes when he releases his (actually i WILL be switching) and then i said ill do scar solutions next so your my 5th site in line So if you can get some more sales stats /affiliate section done in about ... 8 days then ill be about ready to advertise you Loving the idea of going into gambling niche im usually a Health/sex guy but they say the 3 things in life that sell are health wealth and sex soooo might as well try wealth... Only issue i have is how im going to review your service as i have no tangable evidence other than what eveyrone can alreayd see as you post it on the site >.> My style is: Article marketing with 2-5 websites the websites are suually 5 pages and have review articles of the ebook :S how do i review a betting system without sounding bias :S guess thats my challenge Hope all goes well, pm me when everythigns set up.
Legendary11 - Thanks for your response again. My point was that customers will have no reason to request a refund as the service is actually genuine and works - it's not like all the mass eBook systems where most of them don't actually work so the refund rates are probably very high. I haven't actually built an affiliate section as such - I was hoping that affiliates would have their own mailing lists/websites to promote the site through. As previously mentioned, I have no marketing experience so I wouldn't know what to put on the affiliates page - any advise would be gratefully received though. I am having the tip results proofed by the Racing Post for 3 months (concludes at the end of October), so I can always use their results as evidence if this is what you mean? Thanks.