Affiilate caught redhanded

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by EMO_Ralez, Jul 26, 2010.

  1. #1
    I have found a website hosted by your powweb stealing affiliate commisions. The
    website in question is: http://clicibank.com/

    with nameservers:
    ns1.powweb.com ['65.254.254.135'] [TTL=3600]
    ns2.powweb.com ['65.254.254.134'] [TTL=3600]

    The affiliate is overwrite affiliate cookies via in iframe. This method is illegal as
    the person gets affiliate commisions that other affiliates deserved. This is
    essentially the same as stealing.

    Because the domain is a typo of the affiliate company "http://clickbank.com/",it's
    reach is huge.

    if you promote wow product, zygor, idemise, you are loosing commisions! because of this.
    I've send an email to the abuse section you should do also if you promote these products or hate people stealing commisions.

     
    EMO_Ralez, Jul 26, 2010 IP
  2. dlm

    dlm Peon

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    #2
    I don't think it's "illegal" per se.

    Go find me a law that prohibits overwriting affiliate cookies via iframe...
     
    dlm, Jul 26, 2010 IP
  3. Ripped

    Ripped Well-Known Member

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    #3
    It can be considered illegal, there's no law specifically for cookie stuffing, however cookie stuffing goes under 'fraud' . Several big website owners have been sued over this, but this is rarely the case. Most of the time, the affiliate network just bans the user and that's it. However, if it's at a large scale affiliate companies can file a law suit.

    I've also seen clickbank ban people over cookie stuffing, they do not allow this.
     
    Ripped, Jul 26, 2010 IP
  4. EMO_Ralez

    EMO_Ralez Peon

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    #4
    I'm not a lawyer, but when one party takes something that belongs to another party and claims it as his, this is called stealing.

    The affiliate in quesiton takes "a tracking id that is proof of me refering a potential client". We can discuss on this matter, but we can also take some steps, as this is costing people money,


    his whois information:

     
    Last edited: Jul 26, 2010
    EMO_Ralez, Jul 26, 2010 IP
  5. Smitten

    Smitten Well-Known Member

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    Hmm... I waited 1 minute for the page to load, but it just kept bouncing through a bunch of domain redirects. What's with that?
     
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  6. EMO_Ralez

    EMO_Ralez Peon

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  7. dlm

    dlm Peon

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    #7
    I understand...and it's not really clear cut either way.

    That being said, people have been profiting from mis-spelled domains for many years now. What he is doing is unethical, but I highly doubt you could sue him and be victorious.
     
    dlm, Jul 26, 2010 IP
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    Smitten Well-Known Member

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    #8
    A little bit off-topic but... how can cookie stuffing be an effective technique?

    As far as I know:

    a) the most recent cookie gets the sale.
    b) CB purchases tend to be impulsive; I mean, if people just felt like deliberating and doing research they wouldn't buy info products.
    c) Customers won't reach the sales page out of the blue after getting cookie stuffed... they'll eventually get there from a proper affiliate site, whose cookie will prevail.

    I mean, right?
     
    Smitten, Jul 26, 2010 IP
  9. EMO_Ralez

    EMO_Ralez Peon

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    site has been suspended, this topic can de closed
     
    EMO_Ralez, Jul 27, 2010 IP
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    #10
    This is an example of a "Good Post". I've always wondered how people think. You can do this and get away with it sometimes, but eventually you'll get caught. Now the site has been suspended. Great!!
     
    waxman1000, Jul 27, 2010 IP
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    Nice work, good to see him get banned, even if he was only picking up the occasional commission from it.
     
    czarbjones, Jul 28, 2010 IP