Adwords plus ClickBank, Stop!

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by chickut, Sep 4, 2008.

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    It has come to my attention that there are many indivduals here on DP that are investing money they cannot afford to lose in adwords. I think this is due to recent new CB products urging how easseeeee it is to make money via adwords. All I can say is don't put all your eggs into one basket. I highly encourage you start bum markting and use your earnings from bumming towards fueling adword campaigns so you have virtually no loss. It is highly likely that if you invest in adword most of campaigns are most likely going to utterly phailllll.

    A word of advice to all the newbs out there. In most cases you are brought to the world of internet/ affiliate marketing after reading a sales page or buying a ebook product. Do not listent to everything these indivduals have to say. In most cases they practically say, "You can make money in real estate very FAST!" and your like,"O'RLY!!!" Where do I signup?

    For nonbeleievers out there who are like, "booot I see utterz making money troooo adwords???" A large majority are liars. It has also come to my attention that half the people on DP in the CB section lie about there success and stats. Do not be discouraged though because there are also real people out there with real stories of prosperity! I don't know if these liars think it gives them more credibility in saying, "I made $200 from CB by only spending $30 in adwords." and of course I expect to hear these individuals say, "I make.......your wrong!" Well if you read what I had already said you would know that I did acknowledge some people are making money.

    I know because I am an advertising consultant. I realize my post count is low due to the fact I R MAKING teh moniez and I do not troll the forums.

    • stop lying
    • be realistic
    • and keep your wits about you

    Hope this help clear up the fog for some of you out there trying to figure out things through all the hype. If adwords were as easy as people make it out to be then everybody would already be filthy sticking rich? It all comes down to the power of the sales letter in brainwashing you into false dreams. I presume some of you knowledgable members here will agree with that. There is money to be made just don't expect people to hand it to you in a nicely package pdf. ;)
     
    chickut, Sep 4, 2008 IP
  2. Ripped

    Ripped Well-Known Member

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    Dude you've got some issues here,
    People are making good money from CB - FACT
    People are making good money from Adwords + Cb - FACT

    If you tried and failed doesn't mean it doesn't work, just try harder, try to fix your errors, and you'll have success.

    There are people making thousands daily with PPC.. and you come in and say "It doesn't work" .

    True, it is hard to make a successful campaign, but if you manage to do that, you're gonna make a lot of money
     
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    inzpiration Active Member

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    I agree with Ripped, thanks man but you don't know our situation, you can't say,
    Why are you so sure about that, many of us treat this like a real business and we do know how to make money using Adwords + Clickbank. really good money if you know what you're doing. We have our budgets ready for this and we do understand the risks involved.

    Why? just because you don't know how to do it, just because yours failed? no man, my bank account thinks different than you ;)
     
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  4. ScoTech

    ScoTech Peon

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    You are right man, that is so unrealistic. I had to spend $76.57 in Adwords to make $280.71 in Clickbank yesterday.

    Dude STFU
     
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  5. bl4ckmaN^

    bl4ckmaN^ Well-Known Member

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    chickut

    You probably had some bad times with Adwords, that's why you think it's unprofitable. However, if you try to do something a month later, you will get better results.

    And then few months later if you start again, you may even hit a winner. It's all about experience and your knowledge.
     
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    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    Guys he wasn't knocking PPC totally, he was just trying to say that if newbies want better chances of success they should start with bum marketing then move on to PPC when they're more experienced.
     
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    eikliw Active Member

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    Well said.

    yea I dont think he was trying to say it didn't work.

    He is just telling newbies to be careful with ppc, and don't buy hype, which is sound advice.
    In fact he clearly stated
    So, awesome. In all reality, you guys jumped the gun without really reading what he said...

    SLOW DOWN & Go Make More Money!:D
     
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  8. chickut

    chickut Banned

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    First off, SHUT-UP if this does not apply to you. Ripped how can you speak for the "group" as a whole? You are the one who does not know everybody's situation; I am only addressing to a specific group of people. I am just giving a word of advice not to invest in a venture that you cannot afford to lose money in. IT IS BASIC FINANCES 101! You obviously can't read because you misinterpreted this thread all wrong; showing that you don't have to be a genius to make money off CB or affiliate marketing as a whole. :D
     
    chickut, Sep 4, 2008 IP
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    Ripped Well-Known Member

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    If you are a newbie to PPC you're probably gonna get burned until you get the hang of it. If you want to make money, you have to be willing to take a risk, to lose some money, in order to learn the trade.
    I wouldn't suggest a newbie to go and start a ppc campaign. I'd suggest him to do bum marketing for a few months, start generating some nice revenue, and after that, start PPC.

    What you claimed was that PPC doesn't work, and everybody who's saying that they've made money are liars. There are certain individuals that are indeed liars, but there are also a lot of people who really do make a lot of money with both PPC and bum marketing, there are a lot of them on the forums.

    Don't voice your frustration over your failure claiming that it is not possible to run a profitable PPC campaign, but get up, analyze your mistakes, try harder.
    There are two sayings that serve a good motto:

    AND

    Every failure is a step closer to success. Look at the richest people in the world. Look at Donald Trump for example, he bankrupted his whole bussiness, failed big time, he got back up, and he built an empire
     
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  10. chickut

    chickut Banned

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    You still can't read. Admit your wrong and stop trying to hold up a case. your first response was inaccurate and targeted a pseudo problem that was never suggested in my original post. Learn from your mistakes and walk away a bigger man. No matter how much you think you are right, you are not going to school me we you acknowledge a point that is invalid.
     
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    Ripped Well-Known Member

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    I stand 100% by everything I said.

    You said not to start a PPC campaign because you will have.

    You have to fail to suceed, don't expect to suceed at first. You will possibly lose money if you're trying out at PPC, start small, be ready to lose some money if you get experienced, things will start to improve, you will start bringing profit.
     
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    chickut Banned

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    Exactly! Win win for both of us. We have found something we agree upon! ;)
     
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    Its true that sometimes we have to try harder to earn more with adwords, but the situation is not that simple. Adwords is not too effective these days, and some newbies can lose the money.
     
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    AdWords is still plenty easy to turn a large profit with in ClickBank if you target keywords properly and create good ads, not that hard ;)
     
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    Good post. For the majority of people I wouldnt start out with adwords. Articles/bum marketing whatever you want to call it is a good way to get started. Sure, go with adwords if you got money to burn but I think most beginners would be best suited using other methods.
     
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    I'm not a IM newbie and I don't use adwords simply because I suck at it. I have my own avenues of getting targeted traffic. But I DO believe adwords does work. As mentioned above, knowledge and success will come with time, experience and trial and error.

    Advice for newbies keep an eye out for adwords coupons and sign up with multiple accounts. This way you are able to run your risky campaigns with little risk. Learn and tweak from there. Then hopefully you understand it better than me :D
     
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    Well I agree with both sides of the argument..

    1. PPC gets results fast... bum marketing takes time to build up
    2. PPC gives a good return if you get vouchers then your investment is minimal + you can use the voucher to test which KW convert..

    On the whole a smart person would become proficient at both.
     
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    mercuryyy Well-Known Member

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    chickut You sound like a very intresting fellow, To beat the big fish in adsense you must have big balls.

    You'll need to invest a big SUM of money to get a high CTR and then slowly drop you bids, until you find your balance.

    This is very hard and scray for a newbie to do. Chickut is totaly righ, the easiest this to tell a newbie is to go with adwords instant traffic instant money.

    The hard thing is convising him to go with bum markting wich is real hard work, time consuming and hard.

    I'm at a hole defrent angle here i say NO ADWORDS NO BUM MARKETING
    Simply S - E - O

    Take for instance, you invest 2000$ in adwords you make 4000$ and then you stop the compain.

    You invest 2000$ in SEO, (Dummy site, links, articles, ezine, Much More) You end up with the same traffic you make the same 4000$ you stop the compain and what happens? you make another 4000$ without investing any more money :D easy to say hard to do
     
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    inzpiration Active Member

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    Well i think it all depends, if you're having a successful CAMPAIGN with Adwords you don't stop it man, just scale it and that's it until there's nothing more to do. Just scale, scale and scale, re-invest a % of profits and keeps scaling you don't have to stop your C.A.M.P.A.I.G.N at $4,000 that would be silly man.
     
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    Adwords is all about marketing..

    Now how good you are at marketing a digital product?

    That would be years and years of experience in certain niches and micro-niches.
     
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