Adwords client driving me mad

Discussion in 'Google AdWords' started by nickswift, Mar 16, 2009.

  1. #1
    I do a bit of PPC management for the past ear or so. Most of my clients are fine and i just charge them 10% of their monthly budget and i hear nothing from them except payment.

    I have taken on this new client about a week ago and he is sending me about 8 emails a day on average asking for all kinds of things... hundreds of adgroups, thousands of mispelings (uploaded about 30k mispellings this morning), different ad postions (1-5, the 1-3, then just page 1 which means i had to go into loads of adgroups to change) and lots of other requests meaning that I am spending too much time on his account.... what can i do? what do you do with clients like these? i have never had one like this before.

    it is not as bad as it sounds as i have programs which make one adword per keyword and of course mispelling software and adwords editor, but still, its taken over 2 hours this morning to do his changes that he asked for.
     
    nickswift, Mar 16, 2009 IP
  2. SDunroe

    SDunroe Member

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    You have to keep at it, this is what the client is paying you for. I also have clients that simply say "get x amount of conversions at x cost per conversion and I'll keep paying"; while I also have clients who are very finicky about their whole account and want great amounts of work to be done on a daily basis.

    If this is your job then you have to do it or get rid of the client...

    You need to make a schedule and spread your time across the clients, that ensures that each account is worked upon each day.
     
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  3. nickswift

    nickswift Well-Known Member

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    client is now saying things like... my ad is showing for this phrase and keyword when they are not! Wasted more time checking adgroups for wrong keywords - none there, all ok..

    5 emails today from him and its only 14:20!

    I am just hoping he is going to calm down when I get things how he wants them.

    I am working less than minimum wage for this guy the way it is going.
     
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  4. msubmission

    msubmission Active Member

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    LOL in these days it is really pleasure to have a client ready to spend on adwords :) Do your best and if the things go well for some time, you can ask for more payment :)
    But don't loose a client who is ready to spend at adwords.
     
    msubmission, Mar 16, 2009 IP
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    just do what ever you can to please your client. If you think that you are spending too much time for his account and underpaid for all the work that you are doing then either you ask for a raise or tell him that you are no longer going to handle his account...
     
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  6. nickswift

    nickswift Well-Known Member

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    New record yesterday, 16 emails from him!!!!

    Today just the 3, but then again its only 10am.

    Last email correspondence went like this...

    Him : 'im still not appearing for manchester at all,for wigan,bolton,lpool,warrington'

    Me: 'yes you are mate... look' (copy and pasted number of impressions for each adword he is on about from adwords account and then also do a search on Google and send him a screen shot of him in position 2 for manchester phrase)

    Him : ok mate
     
    nickswift, Mar 18, 2009 IP
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    Tell him that positions are not important. Traffic and conversions - this is what he has to be interested in.
     
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  8. SDunroe

    SDunroe Member

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    How much is his management fee?
     
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  9. nickswift

    nickswift Well-Known Member

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    He will be paying me about £130 a month and £199 signup fee which I have really earnt
    (I gave him a £50 free credit with this).

    I tell him that more clicks are better than being higher, but he is not interested in that, he wants to be top - some of his clicks are at £4 a click when they could be more like £2 and still get clicks.
     
    nickswift, Mar 18, 2009 IP
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    At 130bucks, it's way too much work. Since the deal is already made, you can't really do anything about it but try to offer "customer support" as much as possible.

    The thing I hate about such clients is that that they just don't listen to you. And at the end of the day, when he's not making money, he comes and BLAMES you.

    It be best if you can set up some agreement upfront in future, giving you 100% decision making responsibilities.
     
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  11. nickswift

    nickswift Well-Known Member

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    he decided to leave yesterday! got an email saying that he was not getting any bookings... must say i was pleased! In the end, i was probably working for £25 an hour with the signup fee... lot of stress for not a lot of money. I warn you all about getting something in your contracts regarding amount of time you are able to spend on a clients account.


    here is one of his demanding emails for you all to see how i was earning my money!........... some days i got 16 emails like this



    just to confirm what i want from monday mate

    Can you add to international the exact following phrases
    Pallet delivery france
    Pallet delivery spain
    Pallet delivery belgium
    Pallet delivery germany
    Pallet delivery italy
    Pallet delivery holland

    Can you make sure these are exact keyphrases phrases ie don't want just pallet delivery for uk

    ok from monday lets try this please

    £40 local
    £30 international

    £40 local every single phrase possible i want to be in top 3 all the time for all but i understand this cant always happen lets put it for all the 1st page of google not just top 5 as its better to still be seen but ideally manchester,wigan,lpool,preston,warrington,bolton top 3 as well as all the other locasl lets hammer all local work
    same day courier in...
    same day couriers in ....
    same day courier....
    same day couriers...
    sameday couriers...
    sameday courier...
    sameday couriers in...
    sameday courier in...
    couriers in..
    courier in.. all the phrases for local to appear for all the local citys and towns
    courier...
    couriers...
    ...courier
    ...couriers
    ....same day
    ...same day couriers
    ....same day courier all the miss spellings as well!

    international work lets concentrate on these but still have the others appearing i want to be at least top 5 but would prefer top 3 but again lets go to appear on all the 1st page as then we are always showing (not just top 5)

    i think these need to be increased again mate i want to appear and be higher

    lets concentrate on these but still have the others

    these need increasing

    air freight
    international courier (dont seem to be appearing much
    international couriers (dont seem to be appearing much
    sea freight
    international delivery
    air cargo
    european couriers i appear on european couriers with an s but not european courier
    european courier (dont seem to be appearing)
    freight forwarding (dont seem to be appearing
    freight forwarders (dont seem to be appearing
    freight company
    international freight (dont seem to be appearing
    airfreight (dont seem to be appearing
    international shipping (dont seem to be appearing
     
    nickswift, Mar 19, 2009 IP
  12. SDunroe

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    Wow! He was basically doing your job for you though.
     
    SDunroe, Mar 19, 2009 IP
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    magda Notable Member

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    I'm not one for paying much attention to so-called internet gurus, but something I read by Perry Marshall years ago has always stuck in my mind, it went along the lines of "just occasionally you need to sack the customer"
     
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    If your not being paid enough for your time then let the client go.
    Some clients are not worth having on your books, they will stress you out and expect you to do everything for nothing. However, if you feel that you are being paid enough for the work that you are doing, then stick with it. It can only get better.

    :)
     
    spires, Mar 19, 2009 IP