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Advice needed

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by phpl33t, Apr 23, 2008.

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    I used to work for a man that ran a scam web development company. I quit and moved two states away to live with my girlfriend. Some of his customers that he ripped off called me and asked me to testify against him. I also stuck up for their rippoffreports. Now,t he man is going all over the place saying that I never deliver my products, that I keep the money from my customers and that I beat kids.

    (none being true)
    SEMrush
    What should I do?

    http://php.phpl33t.com/false-allegations-michael-d-mann-web-media-projects/

    If anyone feels like reading it for a good picture of the real story.

    Should I totally ignore? Should I shut down my domain and start a new one? Should I take legal action?
     
    phpl33t, Apr 23, 2008 IP
    SEMrush
  2. affiliategirl

    affiliategirl Peon

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    So Michael David Mann is the con artist here. What a story. Can pass for a NYP Blues, Criminal Minds episode, what have you?

    My first impression was, "Man, are you a saint or are you just plain idiot?" Sorry, but how in heaven's name did you manage to be with that man for the second time after being threatened and abused by him mentally, physically and financially for more than 24 months (3 years you said, right?)? Knowing how "irresponsible" he is as a father and as an employer? Twisted is more like it, based on the way he treated his family, you and his clients.

    So there's no question the man has some psychological problem. Did you say he spent 10 years in jail for conning someone? And now he's doing it to you and to many others on the internet. Or he's been doing it to you but you just said, "Okey. I'm still alive. There's no harm in giving him another chance."

    If you only said, "No, it's enough, I've had enough of you," he would have not been able to further the damage he has caused you. But alas! Maybe it's a blessing in disguise and maybe THIS TIME he'll get his lessons. He's clearly and abuser, a deceitful person, a kind of scam personified. Somebody must put a stop to his crimes. But before that happens, somebody must take action to spread his evil works and warn others - guess who he is. :)

    So, it's good that you've come out. It's good that finally you learn to be brave and start taking a stand. I heard it somewhere: "There are no victims; only those willing to be victimized."

    Whether you shutdown your domain or not, be sure to continue on your fight. You may not be able to gain back the money you've lost or those of his online victims, but sure you can prevent more losses, not only in terms of money, if you blow the whistle and aware the others of his dark secrets, his dark intentions.


    Why not pray also? It helps ease the tension.
     
    affiliategirl, Apr 23, 2008 IP
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    phpl33t Banned

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    I don't really know, my friends said that I was just desperate for attachment after my divorce and my mom says I never met someone I didn't like.... which I disagree with, but see her point. I try to see the best in everyone.

    See, he had gone through rehab and what-not and I thought he changed. The people at RMG, our previous employer told me to watch my back, I should have taken that more seriously.

    I have many domains, perhaps I will write software under a nom de plum. Thank you for your advice and wisdom, I have food for thought to ponder.
     
    phpl33t, Apr 23, 2008 IP
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    affiliategirl Peon

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    Oh, there's just too many people in this world to be cautious about. Even if you drive safely, some will not and that causes accident, you know what I mean? But I always believe in the Law of Thermodynamics: to every action there's always an equal and opposite reaction. And that passage in the Bible: you reap what you sow. It may not be now but someday that man will get what he deserves. Even then, I think he needs help. Let's just hope he'll meet someone who could provide it to him that no one will be futher hurt or victimized again.

    As for you, do not let this incident get you. Just be happy that you're still in one piece :) and could afford to start all over again. I think you're a good person because you try to see the goodness in people, but don't trust easily. Don't go looking for instant gratification either. You might do well to live on your own slowly picking up the pieces - make yourself whole again... and learn to learn from the past. Don't go chasing the rainbows if you will fall off the mountain.

    You'll be fine. You have a great talent others like me only wish to have - make use of that to recover and make a difference. Then you'll feel good.

    You're welcome. Glad to be of assistance.
     
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    phpl33t Banned

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    Wow, thank you:D
     
    phpl33t, Apr 23, 2008 IP
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    You can take legal action look up information on libel, or slander. I'm not sure which is the case in your scenario. I would take legal action because this is unfair to you.
     
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    phpl33t Banned

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    Yeah I am talking to a lawyer about it. The more the psycho talks, the more evidence I have.
     
    phpl33t, Apr 24, 2008 IP
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    Talk to a lawyer testify burn that motherfu... ass

    Wish you luck
     
    w3bmaster, Apr 24, 2008 IP
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    It really sucks that you can't trust anyone - after working online for a while and getting scammed a few times I go into every deal with skeptisism and tons of research - really turns you into a cynic:(

    Good luck -
     
    sheilasultani, Apr 24, 2008 IP
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    phpl33t Banned

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    I know how that is. I talked to him today and we came to a truce and he is even sending my star trek collection back to me. I am glad to have the drama in the past. I guess looking for the best in a person is not bad, as long as you keep a little guard up. He apologized and such, and it takes a strong person to do that. Will I be cautious? Of course. But, there is good in everyone... somewhere. Hell, look at Darth Vadar in the end :cool:
     
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    Now, the main thing to do, is not fully trust someone. Especially this guy who said he forgave you.
     
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    My my. I suppose I should post emails regarding this phpl33t from his wife and ex-girlfriend (that they sent me to help me fight his BS). Or maybe I should point out that he repaid the man he stole from and blamed me. Or post the police report regarding the theft of our company laptop. Or the google search words that would show him for what he's done to people since 2004. Since phpl33t uses over 8 aliases on the web that I know of it's easy for him to snow you folks.

    Look at my iTrader. There has not been ONE negative (except for a man who is banned from here). I've been on here for a long time, Jeff, and I can more than prove your 10 years worth of PHP skills are BS. You worked for me TWICE and the second time (a year ago) you came to me eating Ramen Pride Noodles.

    Sure, I attacked you back. You stole from Nick, blamed it on me, had me listed on RipOffReports, used multiple aliases to bolster your claim and attacked a company that fed you when you were broke.

    You stole from us, broke into our offices, and bit the hand that fed you as only a psychotic can.

    Before this gets too carried away, I find it reprehensible that you would carry your attack here, where I enjoy a good reputation and have never had a problem. Kind of like your stalking the derochers back in 2004, isn't it.

    Jeff, i never asked you for a truce. You did. You finally 'fessed up to paying back the money you stole from Nick and HE STILL REPORTS IT WAS ME.

    Sad, I have to come to yet another place where you stalk me and try to damage me.

    You need to be midnful, Jeff, that if I stooped to your level of playing I would post these emails about your "REAL" reason for leaving the Navy, and your "REAL" reason for being escorted off the base in Iceland and so many other things.

    Jeff, I have the emails. Believe me when I tell you - I am trying to keep from stooping to your level of play, but if you persist in stalking me and trying to damage me over and over I will come out fighting.

    Tell these people all you want about your 10 years of PHP coding and what a genius you are. I KNOW you, Jeff, you worked for me, not once but twice. Remember? You cost me two clients by your "expert" coding.

    I am warning you for the last time - stop stalking me. I will post every link to your past BS - I will post these emails from your two ex's (and believe me - it's quite shocking in relation to women and children) and I will eventually prove who all of those ripoffreports really come from.

    This "truce" is not all one way. You cannot go around and slander me on sites that I am a member of (as you did to that poor forum for Dallas PHP coders).

    No one 'forgave' you. What you did to my wife was inexcusable. Only in the name of rationality did I agree to relent, but I will NOT stand by and have you malign me on forums I have a good reputation on.

    This has to stop now. My next shot will be to publish those emails on ripoffreports, here, squeakywheel and anywhere else that will expose you for the psychotic that you are.

    I mean it Jeff - NO MORE!
     
    c0l0rad0, May 10, 2008 IP
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    Nothing you say is true and I will no longer be your scapegoat. That is why I quit, you did not fire me.

    But, I have been advised by my legal counsel to say nothing further on this matter.

    Just keep digging your hole Mike. You begged me for a truce and then start up again, you are insane.
     
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    Jeff, no one BEGGED you for a truce.

    And, the guy you ripped off that started this whole thing has retracted his complaint and filed a rebuttal on RipOffReports telling the world who REALLY ripped him off. YOU!

    In addition, several emails I received from your past ladies and a google of "jeff paris scam' or 'zerofunk scam' shows who YOU really are.

    You stalk people who you disagree with. You use multiple screen names to make your case and then bolster it as other people agreeing with you.

    I have been a DP'er for a long time and have nothing but a positive rating here and you come along and try to make a case of how despicable I am.

    Sure, you're going to get some noobs who listen and don't bother to check YOUR background. Since you're now using another of your 'screen names' people can't really hunt your info down, but we know.

    Jeff Paris, zerofunk, phpl33t, phpintheusa, kahn, and so many others.

    I hate that you are spamming this forum, as you did the one in dallas and others, but, anyone looking at your google info will see that this is your pattern.

    Let me quote you something that I am prepared to produce to anyone who asks WITH HEADERS INTACT:

    Now, I don't want to identify this lady since you've already done her and her child so much damage, but I have others from your ex-wife, girlfriend and associates.

    Stop saying I begged you for a truce, Jeff. You have nothing I want except take whatever steps you think you can and stop spamming peoples forums. Didn't you learn anything when you did this to the DeRouchers or any of those other people.

    You are a psychotic man, Jeff, and what you do to your customers and women and children is the TRUE crime.

    Want to see what Nick had to say, Jeff? It's posted on RipOffReports, so I can quote parts of it here for you:

    Now that this is started I want to advise you that these (and a series of other emails) will be posted for public view tonight on RipOffReports.

    Google that.
     
    c0l0rad0, May 15, 2008 IP
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    wow, couldn't this have been handled in PM?
     
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    Mike, your fabrications are just that. I am not going to entertain your nonsense. My customers know better. You and Nick keep changing your stories and your accusations are meant to take attention off you an put it onto me. Just grow up and stop. This is insane. Anyone can write fake emails and notes. If the crap you said is true, I'd be in jail.

    As far as Nick, you are both liars. I am not getting into this. My karma is clean. Btw, since everything bad about me on google is BY YOU, that don't count. The only others were the Desrochers and they removed everything and appologized for the flaming. You however, just keep going. Yes, you asked for a truce moron, I recorded our phone call.

    Be smart, save us both a lot of legal fees, and shut up. Because I will take legal action on defamation of character.

    Spamming? I have not spammed anyone. Another lie.

    Someone close this thread please. I posted this for advice, not a flame war.
     
    phpl33t, May 15, 2008 IP
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