Adversal comes back online with new payment structure!

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by wormy, Oct 18, 2006.

  1. #1
    Last night I wasn't able to get in to check stats but this morning I got an email from them saying everything had changed and they now had new rates especially for my sites. Yeah the rates were lower than before probably because I run proxy sites. Anyone else got the same email?
     
    wormy, Oct 18, 2006 IP
  2. wormy

    wormy Active Member

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    When you DONT log in to their front page you get these rates listed now:

    Country Raw CPM US $1.20 UK $1.20 CA $1.15 FR, DE, IT $0.65 All Others $0.30

    Thats what the public sees but at the bottom in the fine print they say you get started with that and then they "evaluate" your sites on an individual basis. I guess its true what they say, good things don't last forever. That 50-cent CPM for all non-US traffic was also the best in the industry was it not? Especially for Chinese, Indian and Iranian clicks?
     
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    I agree this absolutely sucks.

    Here is the worst part - Adversal doesn't change what it is charging publishers. No matter if a publisher gets a so called 'under performing' website to load it's pops or a great website, they still pay the same. This new fee structure is just a way for adversal to lower their payments to publishers, without providing any real benefit to the people who buy their popups from them.
     
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    Ezo Well-Known Member

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    All our signatures will change ;)
     
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  5. wormy

    wormy Active Member

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    So its just business. Now this makes me wonder, how is paypopup coming along? They pay $1.80 versus adversal's $1.20 per eCPM for US traffic and they pay above $1.20 for UK, CA and OZ traffic too. Lol of course adversal doesnt pay everyon the $1.20 any more obviously its $0.80 now.

    So anyway has anyone had recent experience with paypopup? Do they still have their trojan problems?
     
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    I've heard of the trojan problems, and correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't PayPopUp only pay for UNIQUE visitors, not raw CPM? If so, I'm fairly certain they are still much worse then adversal..

    The only saving grace might be the increased earnings for UK / CA that now exists (at least for me, suppose I can't speak for everyone), so hopefully that international traffic will be worth a little more.

    Still, overall it sucks.
     
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    I tried paypopup for a couple of months and my users started complaining about their PC'c getting crashed due to those popups. IMO they just don't care about it.
     
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    wormy Active Member

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    I just logged in to adversal and my rates seem to have moved up a tiny bit(after crashing down quite a bit) to this:

    Country CPM
    US $0.85
    UK $0.85
    CA $0.81
    FR, DE, IT $0.47
    All Others $0.22

    I wonder how these are calculated. Maybe advertisers are bidding on them? How does he determine which websites are worth $1.20 and which are worth $0.81 and which $0.85 per US click I wonder.
     
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    I like the new look, but not the rates...

    US $0.93
    UK $0.93
    CA $0.89
    FR, DE, IT $0.50
    All Others $0.23



    About the paypopup trojan problems, I've gotten a few from Paypopup on my computer a while ago. My windows never crashed but I figured running Adversal was better for my site visitors.
     
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    Country CPM
    US $0.85
    UK $0.85
    CA $0.81
    FR, DE, IT $0.47
    All Others $0.22

    I'm not very happy with this, I will take a huge hit, I served 1.5 million popups from South America monthly for alst 4 months for Adversal. I was earning $750 monthly with $0.50 CPM, now with $0.22 I will only make $330.

    My American traffic is not better off either 2 million monthly popups earned me $2,400 at $1.20 CPM, now its down to $1700 at $0.85 CPM. Thats a drop of about 33% in my revenue.
     
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    I haven't seen one person yet say their rates have gone above 1.20 Anyone even above a 1.00 now? Bye bye adversal as you're not even worth it now to risk getting pinched for adsense violations.
     
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    Did anyone get their stats in for October 18th yet? The new system? I still don't see an update.
     
    wormy, Oct 19, 2006 IP
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    this is my rates:

    US $0.93
    UK $0.93
    CA $0.89
    FR, DE, IT $0.50
    All Others $0.23

    bye bye adversal
     
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    my earning for October 18th was less than a half of usual days earning before they set the new rates.
     
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    mixke Prominent Member

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    I believe they still have that trojan problem * not sure though * I tried them in past all i can say is that i was paid on time :)
     
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    Rates are fine. Look at it like this. If you got 1,000 UK hits before you would get 0.50C. Now you get $1.30. Becuase "all others" has decreased, some countries have increased.
     
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    My stats just came in today. My US impressions have dropped from around 11,000 to 4,000 and my international/others impressions dropped from 74,000 to 30,000. No significant UK/CA/FGI impressions AT ALL.

    Did anyone else experience a drastic drop in US impressions??? Or is this just because of my server problems?
     
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    wormy Active Member

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    These rates look fine but nobody is getting those rates any more! Those are the MAX RATES that adversal will pay you before they "revise and audit" your websites to determine how much they can shave off. Which appears to be about 40% for all the people who have posted in here.

    And did anyone notice a humungous drop in US impressions or am I the only one perhaps having server problems?
     
    wormy, Oct 19, 2006 IP