Advantages of Sandboxing

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Nokia999, Oct 29, 2005.

  1. #1
    i cannot understand.At last what is benefits of keeping websites in sandbox for long number of days and months.
    Is there any benefit or it is just Google's teasing policy:eek:
     
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  2. mcdar

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    I think that the "sandbox" effect that new sites/pages experience is due to the fact that Google is SLOW in pre-processing new pages and caching those results.

    But thats just my little theory.
     
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  3. Bompa

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    My theory is that new sites do not have enough high PR backlinks with their keywords anchored to rank well, deep eh?
     
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    on googles side of things it helps wipe out the spam results from the SERPS.

    on our side of things it gives us time to build up the site, and lets us appreciate the traffic the other engines can bring :)
     
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  5. Crusader

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    That's true. Google implemented the Sandbox to try and stop those fly-by night spam site webmasters that are churning out hundreds of spam sites a day.
     
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  6. aeiouy

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    I thought your theory involved them not listing results for those sites in some sort of pre-cache.. At least I believe I remember you saying something like that in the past. Anyways, I remember it sounding very plausible.

    :)
     
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  7. mcdar

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    Yes, that IS what I said.

    Google does list them eventually, they are just real SLOOOOW in doing so.

    Caryl
     
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    I suppose google is trying to keep new sites off the map to prevent people from creating them to boost other sites.
     
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  9. Ian

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    Or if you launched an e-commerce site like I did 7-months ago, the sandbox causes you to have to spend some money with Adwords whie you're waiting to rank normally in order to try and generate sales in the meantime ;)

    Ian
     
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    Although it can be aggravating to have a site in the phantom sandbox, I think it does help serve the purpose of not having a bunch of fly-by-night spammers overloading the net with crap and scam sites.

    Rather than wasting time worrying about when a site will ever get "out of the box" it's a good time to simply continue adding content rich pages, build links, optimize, etc. so that when it is release, it comes out swinging.

    I just launched a site in the last few weeks for a new client and it's doing fine in Google - for now - but I keep wondering when it may fall off the radar. However, I have noticed that pushing a few quality links and even doing an article or such for a new website seems to help avoid the sandbox, or at least hasten its stay. Also, the competitiveness of the keywords seems to play a role. The sitie I'm referring to is elizabethtown-yoga.com and no big surprise "elizabethtown yoga" search in Google brings it up nicely at #1 (for now) - especially after doing a short promo article on the front page of my PR3 site, which is listed #2 for the same keyword search.
     
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    Yes, the keywords you are targeting makes a huge difference. My one site finally seems to be climbing out of the sandbox after a domain name change, but the keywords that are the most competitive doesn't show any growth yet. That from a site that was #1 for the specific keyword before the change.

    It actually makes perfect sense. Let's say it gets generally known that "dorkhat" pays premium revenue for clicks. Within a few days there will be thousands of sites targeting "dorkhat". What the sandbox does is limit these spam sites from really getting out of hand and raking in the cash before the "dorkhat" craze dies. (Couldn't think of a better example ;) )
     
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  12. Nokia999

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    How it can be tested that particular website is in sandbox or not?
     
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    There isn't a real test as such. However in general if your site ranks well in MSN and Yahoo but doesn't show up at all in Google it's a good indication that you might be sandboxed.
     
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    I feel that the sandbox issue is due to the programs that create pages on the fly. Google definately doesn't those pages to rank at all so the sandbox prevents that from happening.
     
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    Actually I don't think that is it at all.

    Google has no trouble ranking dynamic pages. You will find lots of threads from here at Digital Point ranked very high for various keywords in Google. In many cases #1.

    So I don't believe that is the issue.
     
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    I think the sandbox time is the chance for Google to see how popular the site is with visitors that have been generated by other search engines.

    Using the popular Google Toolbar I am sure Google can monitor the visitor behaviour of Yahoo or MSN generated visits. As Yahoo and MSN do not seem to have a sandbox Google can craftily monitor behaviour generated by these engines using the Google Toolbar. If there is a very high bounce rate it could indicate a spam site/

    The sandbox time gives Google a nice period of time to work out whether the site is not spam and popular with visitors.
     
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