Adult Friend Finder won't pay my commissions and won't answer emails. What recourse?

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by Eurofile007, Jan 2, 2009.

  1. #1
    Hi all,
    Adult Friend Finder won't pay my $137 in commissions, which is over a month due according to their own policies (see below), and won't answer my emails about it. I've emailed them 7 times including through their online contact form, and called them about it too, only to get a bogus answer. As of now, they do not answer any further emails about it, nor have they sent my overdue $137 check. Yet it still remains in my affiliate stats.

    See the screen shots below for proof.

    What can I do about this? Who do I report internet fraud to? I've already written AFF and said that if they don't answer my emails, I will report them as fraud to the FTC and put up a webpage on my own site exposing them as well. Yet they continue to ignore me. I've done nothing wrong here other than ask for my commission check.

    Does the FTC have a site that I can report internet fraud at? Where do I report this to?

    Fortunately, I've saved a screen shot of my earnings with them, so if they ever remove them, I have proof that they were there. See below. In the 2nd screen shot below, you will see AFF's FAQ saying that they cut checks twice a month with a $50 minimum, so I was due to be paid long ago. Yet no explanation on their end.

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    Eurofile007, Jan 2, 2009 IP
  2. Eurofile007

    Eurofile007 Active Member

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    Do you think this is a good site to report frauds to? It seems to have connections to the US government.

    https://complaint.ic3.gov/ctf.aspx

    As I said, I've written AFF many times at their email:

    And through their online contact form. So I am not some peabrain complaining about nothing. It seems that when you ask AFF trivial things, they respond right away, but when you ask them "where's my check" they just ignore you. That's odd.
     
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  3. thefreebielife

    thefreebielife Peon

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    did you happen to call them?
     
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  4. moneybrown

    moneybrown Peon

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    yea check out reportripoff.com....i have the same issue with adultestores.com......and i just started using aff.com...now i know what to expect with aff.com

    damn why do companies do this...they need us..with out us there wont be them???!!!!
     
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  5. moneybrown

    moneybrown Peon

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    i mean ripoffreport.com
     
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    Get in touch with them on ICQ #: 215446267 . They are mostly present there...
     
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  7. Eurofile007

    Eurofile007 Active Member

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    W: Yes I called them. Some ditzy girl answered the phone. All she could tell me was that the person who purchased membership through my site hadn't logged in yet. I said that didn't make sense, because as long as they became a paid member, what does it matter if they don't log in yet? She had no other explanation. That was it.

    Doesn't that sound weird?
     
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  8. Eurofile007

    Eurofile007 Active Member

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    W: Well some other webmasters said that AFF always paid them on time. So maybe it's just me? I don't know. But it's very odd that they won't even answer my emails.
     
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    Wrzmaster Peon

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    Adult Friend Finder pays, but sometimes they have delays with their payments.

    Try calling them and they will answer your questions about your payment status.
     
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  10. discuss4u

    discuss4u Well-Known Member

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    I have no problem with AFF. But I receive the payment using epass. I don't know whether there will be any difference between receiving checks and epass payment.
     
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  11. Eurofile007

    Eurofile007 Active Member

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    Hi folks,
    I finally got a response from AFF about my unpaid commissions. As you can see, it sounds totally bogus, fishy and evasive, as though they have something to hide. This, despite what others who say they have no problem with AFF payments, is pretty much the smoking gun proof that says it all.

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    "Hi Winston,

    Thank you for your recent email. Upon reviewing your account I've noticed that your traffic needs to be further reviewed. It seems as though your traffic is not showing abnormal member activity.

    We will hold the payment until it is proven that the members that have purchased memberships on your Affiliate account are not fraudulent.

    I hope this information helps.

    Thank you,

    Porscha T.
    Affiliate Marketing Friend Finder INC."
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    W: You see, nothing in the letter even make sense and is not even relevant to anything. If my traffic is "not abnormal" then it's normal, so isn't that a good thing? It's not even clear what they are talking about.

    Even if they decide to convert me to a percentage plan now, their check to me is still a month overdue, and was due when I was on a per order plan, so technically, they still owe it to me either way.

    I didn't know there were still scams like this in the US.
     
    Eurofile007, Jan 10, 2009 IP
  12. AffiliatePal

    AffiliatePal Peon

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    #12
    It's pure bureaucracy.
    She probably meant that your traffic is suspicious, that's why you didn't receive the payment yet.
    This can be very annoying indeed.
    But i honestly don't think AFF are scamming. They have tens of thousands of affiliates under their belt.
    They pay.
     
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  13. night_fall

    night_fall Peon

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    #13
    This is very bad for you. But i think that one of their user who get into AFF with your affiliate ID is frauding system so they maybe need to check all others transactions done with your affiliates and nobody have been delegated to do this.

    Just wait a little bit more, and resend an email or call them to see if there's a change.
     
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  14. bimasakti

    bimasakti Well-Known Member

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    I even often quarrel in the email with one of the admin named Carlos, I should almost paid $ 300 more, Carlos throw the responsibility that I should contact payoneer (I paid via debit mastercard payoneer), then I contact the payoneer, from payoneer that does not have answers / there is no payment on my behalf. AFF damn right, ten day after i receive my payment, after I send of tons email to AFF
     
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  15. Eurofile007

    Eurofile007 Active Member

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    W: What does that mean exactly? Traffic is traffic. How can it be suspicious? I asked them to clarify and they haven't. They only said my traffic is abnormal.

    Isn't that fishy? Why can't they explain what they mean?
     
    Eurofile007, Jan 16, 2009 IP
  16. trinity-be

    trinity-be Peon

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    #16
    I'm now 3 months with AFF, and so far, they paid me 5 checks. They are great :D

    Your traffic looks "suspicious", and i'll try to explain why :)

    With 66 vistors, you managed to have 1 signup, and that signup also managed to be a paid one. So, in their point of view, you buy the cheapest 1 month account of them for $29,95, you still earn $130 - $29,95 = $100,05. So they loose money.

    Also, you said that they are 1 month overdue with payment. In that month, you dident made any new members.

    So, that's why they think that your traffic looks suspicious. They just hold and watch your sites for a couple more months. To see if it continues in the same manner.

    You will not believe, how many pp trying to scam them everyday. They have to be "on gaurd" for scammers themself all the time.

    My current conversion rate is 48 free members to 1 paid member. And not 1 free member to 1 paid member like you.

    Just relax, sit back, and let your site work for you ... you will make more sales very soon, and then they will pay you ;)

    Have faith :D

    Greetz,
    Trinity-BE
     
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  17. Eurofile007

    Eurofile007 Active Member

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    Here's the update. Well, Adult Friend Finder changed my membership to the percentage system. Then it said that the new system was retroactive and erased half my earnings, and that they would pay me only $52 instead of the $137 they owed me.

    After a while I said, ok, so where's my $52? They didn't answer me. Then when I asked them again, I got a message saying they banned me.

    Fricking low life scums.

    Here is their message in their own words.

    So they promised to pay $52.59 but they didn't. When I asked about it next, they said:

     
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    They owe me money too but won't respond to any of my messages, don't really know what to do?
     
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  19. residualincome4life

    residualincome4life Peon

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    Glad, I don't mess with any adult or gambling sites.
     
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