Adsense Vitals

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by martialarm, Jul 19, 2006.

  1. #1
    I am a regular to this forum but my first post under this site username.

    I am getting into serious mode after having adsense on my site for a while now and I am considering hiring someone to help me out. Of course everyones an expert so I thought I would throw a challenge out there and see who comes the closest - Ill also do the same on webmasterworld.

    A clash of the giants!

    By researching my site

    www.martialarm.com

    by checking its PR, Alexa, and other webmaster research tools who can tell me my vital statistics.

    eg number of visitors, adsense page impressions, clicks, CTR, CPM and earnings.

    Lets do those figures for every month and Ill check it compared to my adsense notifier extension.

    My unique and total pages viewed per Analytics move in a certain number range so take a guess at per day traffic on uniques and pages

    I'll let you all know who was closest and I dont think this breaks TOS as I am not telling my earnings.

    This is of course a blatent self promotion of my site but like I said I need some advice I can act on and facts do the talking.

    I think it would be interesting to see if this vital statistics are guessable by someone with good experience.

    Of course if your really good I would like to hear any other data you can come up with about how I can improve my traffic and earnings - my niche is martial arts and so not the most competative but like any area we are all fighting for number one spot and revenue.

    One tip is 40% google, 25% yahoo, 15% direct visitors.

    Please dont fill up the thread with comments or flames as I do what to see if these statistics can be closely guessed at or if it is completely unknowable especially with so many threads out there about how google is broken and all search is in the toilet etc.

    Site online since 2001 adsense on most pages.
     
    martialarm, Jul 19, 2006 IP
  2. AdsenseAddict

    AdsenseAddict Peon

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    Are you using multiple accounts? If yes then you're gonna be banned here.
     
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  3. martialarm

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    no i usually visit on my gfs account and rarely post but read alot.

    Now thats out of the way any facts and figures?
     
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  4. kyoku2

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    Hiya, your forum has 809 registered users but there are little posts.. i wonder why.. GL with ur site!
     
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  5. martialarm

    martialarm Peon

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    Its not really a forum but a question and answer site.

    I haven't expected much discussion there and most buyers say they have no questions and if they do I send them to the forum.

    I dont know why sooooo many join and then dont post - I expect it is a form of link spam in some way - anyway I dont really care.

    But now if you have any expertise in adsence and traffic analysis for growth I'd love to hear it after a decent study.
     
    martialarm, Jul 19, 2006 IP
  6. jackburton2006

    jackburton2006 Peon

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    This is stupid. What's the point of your thread again? And what does it have to do specifically with Adsense? If you want to play games, go do it in the General Chat forum.
     
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  7. martialarm

    martialarm Peon

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    it has to do with getting an improvement on my use of adsense.

    We do fine on sales but I need help with increase in traffic or at least adsense useage - I am also interested if indeed optimization or seo expertise can indeed be consistent with reading all the available tools of the trade to show a result.

    I think if someones good enough to read a current situation and know the facts they also know their stuff to improve a situation and not just make offhanded comments that are not productive.

    There are pleanty of threads here to read and I hope you find something you like.

    ps I forgot to mention how attractive you are jack.. Also with over 3000 posts I expect you would know if this is likely or not - is it just a guessing game and roll the dice with the engines - or do you really need 4234 sites that interlink to make any adsense money?

    But I know of everyone opinion its all through the threads. I am wondering if there is a science back of it that is stable thats all and I thought this is a way to find that out. Steak and no sizzle - that type of thing
     
    martialarm, Jul 20, 2006 IP
  8. jackburton2006

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    Dude, you have Adsense on a site designed to sell martial arts products, and your Adsense ads are displaying "Martial arts supplies" ads. You're losing $$$ to your competitors for the sake of pennies a click. "Improving" your Adsense is the least of your worries. Wise up.
     
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  9. martialarm

    martialarm Peon

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    I actually found that not to be true.

    I sell one product - a boxing bag with a stick coming out of it.

    It is not available anywhere else.

    Visitors come to my site from "martial arts supplies', 'wooden dummy', 'martial arts training gear' etc.

    They are looking for something and usually it is NOT my product. But I do hope to convert them.

    Now if they dont want it and most do not....then....

    let em go?

    or get a couple of cents per visitor?

    Now it could be argued I should stock all those products and maybe we'll get to that. But it'll probably be as an incentive to buy the martialarm and get a free set of gloves, or boxing bag or something.

    So do you still think the same way or maybe you think I could filter the adds a little?
     
    martialarm, Jul 20, 2006 IP
  10. Market-Trend

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    Jacks right, you need to focus on selling your own products. Then if theres areas you dont supply create a page talking about these products and place adsense ads on these, either that or expand your own product range.

    Also the site looks very busy and doesnt give the user any sense of focus. Id look at restructuring the site, make it clear and simple for the user. You seem to have an awful lot on there but with no clear objective. Do you know what YOU want from the site ?



    (Just saw your reply after posting but I still think you / the site need to decide what it is you're trying to achieve)
     
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  11. jackburton2006

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    Hey, it's your profit margin and your site. Do as you wish. /shrug
     
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    Another bit of advice:

    I just watched the video as it looked like a interesting product. something that I may buy having recently spent £300 on a Taebo, this looks like it could be pretty good training tool.

    My concerns before buying would be is it any good ie. build quality etc so I looked for testimonials, I found them in the end but it took a while. Testimonials are probably your strongest selling tool once someone has a interest in a product. I'd put them on their own page & make a much bigger deal about them, and link to them from all relevant pages in places where people will see them easily.

    Going off adsense a bit but just a few tips.
     
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  13. martialarm

    martialarm Peon

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    I found that if its just a site about the product I get no search engine traffic.

    So we made pages about every martial art, weapons, systems, styles, history, definitions and basically content.

    A resource site is what others will link to not an sales site on a product.

    So the content was done and visitors increased, most entries are from one of the other 1000 pages we have and not the index or the sales page.

    On these other pages we have adsense and we had none on the sales page and the index page.

    All fine and dandy with slaes occuring and some adsense happening.

    I placed some adsense on the index and sales page and no effect on sales.

    But 'a quick preview of the issue' cannot be relied on and that is why I posted looking for some real internal page by page analysis - I am sure google inspects every corner before deciding whats up with a site.

    The fact is we have created content and placed on adsense

    Adsense has just marginally increased sales as people began to bookmark us due to our product, information and some related adds were there - adsense.

    Like you said we sell martial arts supplies

    - no we dont I sell one product but the adsense makes it look like we sell martial arts supplies.

    I know it looks busy and that is the direction we took to get optimized for numerous terms as our main one 'wooden dummy' just doesnt have a high demand.

    We get visitors from totally off the mark martial arts terms that turn into sales because at this point busy seems to be what google wants - text wise.

    Once links are established then we will redo the look and increase the visualness to promote the product with some good java, banners and the like.

    but unless someone out there with a PR 9 links to us then we have to rely on covering a lot of terms to get any visitors and most dont want a strange kung fu machine they came for 'butterfly knives' or something and so this is where adsense comes into play!!
     
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  14. msmp3

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    I think he wants that someone do his work for free; like statistics, suggesting keywords etc :D
     
    msmp3, Jul 21, 2006 IP
  15. martialarm

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    I have all the keywords I need but your right I do want to see if optimization or estimations on what is current right now or growth prediction is possible.

    Isnt that what a forum is for, to ask advice and get help.

    I just am finding that so many experts are up and down and really the only way to improve a site with traffic is to create thousands of sites interlinked to prove 'popularity'.

    If this is the case then spam junk sites are what the engines are creating because thats the way to succeed.

    Or can a single site position itself well in the engines and earn from adsense.

    From what I read a new site doesnt do well and so 1000s need to be made.

    I am also interested in staticstics and not brief opinions but it seems that is all there is..
     
    martialarm, Jul 21, 2006 IP