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Adsense Rotation Engine, Now Everyone Earn BIG!

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by rewlie, Jun 13, 2006.

  1. slip

    slip Peon

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    #21
    i rather keep to my own website...im making a god amt of revenue
     
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  2. rewlie

    rewlie Active Member

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    #22
    Did i say you cannot ?? That's why i only allow 1 ads to be used in each category thru that system, the rest, paste directly to your website, the one you put into the system, let it rotating across other sites.
     
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    rewlie Active Member

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    #23
    As said before, it is still under beta, so i will appreciate any comments, suggestion etc.
     
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  4. slip

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    #24
    it seems like a good idea if you fix alot of the concerns presented before you in this thread...if you fix those id be interested
     
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  5. rewlie

    rewlie Active Member

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    #25
    I will answers any concerns, fill me up, security?? effectiveness??
     
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  6. rewlie

    rewlie Active Member

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    #26
    Ok i will list all the features here :

    1. Global ip ban / domain ban from the network to ensure if there's any violation occurs/ clickbomb.

    2. Impression flood detection per timeframe.

    3. Drop any sites that did not send any impression within specific timeframe to make sure ads moving at all time.

    4. Backend logging.

    5. Ability to preview all user ads at the backend.

    6. If someone grab your code by viewing the source and put it somewhere for bombing purpose, it will not work! The code from system only, not your real adsense code.

    7. Low CTR/high impression detection - detect possible sites using autosurf to generate impression.

    8. Your ads will not show to the same visitors in a 1 second timeframe
     
    rewlie, Jun 13, 2006 IP
  7. Riboflavin

    Riboflavin Well-Known Member

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    #27
    Ok, here is why this won't work.


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    Bassically what you are accomplishing by this is taking everyones revenue and averaging it between all the users. Lets say you have 3 new sites which are making $5 a month, and also someone with an older site making $25 a month.

    Now, the three people that own the $5 p/m sites join up and there revenue goes up to $10 per month (total site revenue divided by number of people in the program). Unfortunatly for the guy making $25 a month, his revenue drops down to $10 as well.

    He now leaves the program and goes back to his $25 a month, and the other three are back down to $5 and really have no reason to stay in any more either.
     
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  8. rewlie

    rewlie Active Member

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    did i say that you have to use the system overall, cannot put adsense code directly into your page??

    If you dont understand the system, dont talk about it, ask!

    PLEASE NOTE, EVEN IF YOUR ADS WERE ROTATED ONTO ANOTHER WEBMASTERS SITE, CLICK/IMPRESSION WILL STILL BELONGS TO YOU !!

    I just dont understand what are you talking about, taking their revenues ?? What did i take from that system ?? I just wanna make a variables, say if your ads shown on a site talking about lawyers, ppl clicks, you will get the "lawyers" price, and your site talking about "fishing", ppl clicks on your site, clicks will go to webmasters whose ads shown on your website, and he got that "fishing" ads price, and it's keep rotating within more sites, more topics, more variable in income, instead of writing thousands topic, you now get dozens by sharing your "site".

    Taking their revenues and divide it, WTF ?? You are boosting your income by making your ads displaying in various topic, various source, by let the code travel around another sites, at the same time, let other's code travel also to your site.

    Take a look at this 2 site and your will understand what the hell that system did to those site by viewing their source!

    http://roslan.sellbuy2u.com

    http://www.asiabeautyreviews.com

    Do your own comparison.
     
    rewlie, Jun 13, 2006 IP
  9. TheHoff

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    #29
    mmmm.. socialism for AdSense!

    Yes, you are averaging people's revenues; it makes no sense. If I have a site about "lawyers" why would I want to exchange clicks with someone who has a site about "fishing"?
     
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    rewlie Active Member

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    Are we talking about 2 sites here ?? Just 2 topics?? Fix, your are not exchanging clicks, you rotate them. Adsense team encourage us for a reason, i just have no idea what their reason is all about, that's their business. Read mate, read ! It is based per impression, duh!!

    Forgot to mention, if you are so concern about not sharing your ads for content, just use the system to rotate your Referrals, also work for Referrals, and affiliates.
     
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    #31
    Encouraging you and saying something is fine are two different things. Sure, you can do it, but why? Please explain how "everyone earns BIG" -- are you creating more impressions or more clicks?

    Joe signs up and has 4 sites that get 1000 impressions and 20 clicks per day.
    Jack signs up and has 2 sites that get 200 impressions and 10 clicks per day.

    So Jack still gets 200 impressions but some of those are on Joe's website....... so what? Who does that benefit-- Joe or Jack? If Jack has the higher priced niches and gets higher priced clicks, it benefits Joe. If not, it benefits Jack because he gets better clicks from Joe's website.

    It is a ZERO-SUM game. No one wins, no one earns big. All you're doing is averaging out people's revenue. That is great if you only get $0.05 per click but anyone making more than that would be stupid to join in as the net result would be losing money as your clicks are distributed to those with lower priced niches. If you still don't get it and you wish to continue on, feel free. But really, it is crap.
     
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  12. Riboflavin

    Riboflavin Well-Known Member

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    #32
    I honestly have no idea what you are trying to say rewlie, so I am just guna get out of here now.

    I thought you were making a revenue rotation thing, similar to the one on DP, but accross many sites. I guess I was wrong.
     
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    #33
    It gets a crap vote from me :) Revenue sharing makes sense this does not.... it brings everything to a level playing field and gives no real incentive for big earners to join and if big earners don't join eveyone else's earnings will stay crap...
     
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  14. rewlie

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    #34
    We are not talking about 2 sites, you still make a comparison for 2 sites, you dont get something bigger than 2 things in your life ?? we are talking about taking up the non-performance ads to be rotated, not every ads performs well, then it's time to get it spread.

    we are talking about small earners to become big earners from this system by sharing it, sharing their niches, big earners, just leave them alone.
     
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    #35
    Finally, a voice of reason.
     
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    rewlie Active Member

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    #36
    whatever..
     
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    #37

    How do you plan to make that work?
     
    Riboflavin, Jun 14, 2006 IP
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    #38
    People who have no stake in your venture, and thus, no reason to lie to you, are trying to tell you that your system is flawed. These are not opinions to be dismissed. A lot of us here have been working on this for much, much longer than you. You should shut down the enrollment and think this through first. There is no need to rush into this. A lot of Adsense noobs will be rushing to join you because they don't know any better; freeze all of their accounts until you've thought everything through and can say, with 100% certainty, that this isn't a doomed enterprise.

    To reiterate: Nobody wants you to fail, but we just don't see the logic in this.

    Take it for what you will.
     
    jackburton2006, Jun 14, 2006 IP
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    #39
    What happens when someone's AdSense code gets rotated on a porn site and Google see's it? Your users will be pretty upset that you allowed that to happen, plus now they are banned altogether. Seems way to risky.
     
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    Assuming the impressions with too low CTR like your site says are ...discredited?? Anyway as participants join who can't get as much per click, the community value of clicks falls presumably

    Short-term gain for newcoming participants by sucking away some of the initial participants' advertising revenue...
     
    phree_radical, Jun 14, 2006 IP