AdSense Relevancy

Discussion in 'Placement / Reviews / Examples' started by Solicitors Mortgages, May 13, 2005.

  1. Solicitors Mortgages

    Solicitors Mortgages Well-Known Member

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    #21
    ok...it works
    I make one link to the page from DP...and now i see Edinburgh ads

    Shawn...how much to host my site map?
     
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    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    #22
    lol GEM.

    Dealing with this sucks. I just don't understand. I had to resort to the adlinks because I was refreshing so much and didnt want to screw with advertiser's numbers by refreshing the page with banner ads on it.
     
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    Solicitors Mortgages Well-Known Member

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    #23
    yeh...your telling me
    6 months so far..and no relevancy. If i can get shawn or someone else
    to explain so i can understand, that would help. I don't want someone to hold my hand......... but hey...i'm nearly at that stage now :D
     
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    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    #24
    Well, I don't think it's anything they can do. It's more along the lines of Google straightening their stuff out.
     
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  5. Homer

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    #25
    Just a wild and crazy longshot here. We know that Google uses some very complexed technology that includes LSI in SERPS. Maybe also with AdSense. Do you have a current local copy of the site? MAybe you could do a search throughout the site, locally. Search for terms, and like terms that are displaying in your ads.

    To find some of the terms that Google may consider synonomious use the ~ in your search phrase and search. Watch what terms are bolded. My thinking is that perhaps similar terms are metioned somewhere in your blog that are triggering these ads to display :confused:

    Hope this helps you figure out the puzzle...I just love Google...always keep us working :)
     
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    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    #26
    Well, what I've done now is a 301 redirect from /carinsurance/ to /car-insurance/ and magically, the ads are working right again. I knew this would fix it, but I shouldn't have to resort to a 301 just to get Google to do it's job.
     
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    #27
    I agree...but that's a bandaid fix. I would want to dig deeper, but that's just me :) I hate redirects of any sort, unless absolutely neccessary.
     
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    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    #28
    Ok, riddle me this.

    www .1carinsurance. org

    This is a site in the co-op (not mine) and he too is getting the exact same ads as I was.
     
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    #29
    Um...maybe it's me but I get
    We can't find "www.xxxxxx.org" :confused:
     
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    Infiniterb Well-Known Member

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    #30
    Yeah, I edited. It was 1carinsurance not carinsurance1. My mistake :)

    Just got this set of ads there:

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    #31
    I'm wondering if the co-op backlinks to sites are throwing adsense off. Also, I do not run co-op ads on my page.
     
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    #32
    That's funny to me. I have yet to find anything that we can't explain. When I go to browse I see relevant ads displaying. I have put a SC below. There was only one ad that seemed a little off. I have circled it in red. All other ads appear relevant :confused: [​IMG]
    Looks good to me :)
     
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    #33
    In order to understand this, Homer, you would have had to see the ads before these changes.

    And explain how when I 301'd to another directory, the ads magically changes to offers for car insurance as opposed to safety, health, etc?

    Explain how I've lost about $1500 a month in income because of their changes in the way ads are relevant. There's a huge problem here. When the ads changed, the CTR dropped a ton. Google is penalizing sites from what I can see. The sad thing about all this is that I've been working with three people from the adsense team and exchanged emails quite a bit with no resolution. I don't expect anyone here to find any resolution to the situation without having experienced the problem, and even if you've experienced it, the only work around is 301ing to another folder or similar.

    If you refresh enough you'll start to see spyware ads, virus removal, etc. These ads NEVER appeared before until a few months ago. Now, why would this page and my page both be delivering these ads if it wasn't a Google issue? My earnings prove that when the ads are relevant, clicks are up and everyone wins. Now when Google does crap like this, everyone loses.
     
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    #34
    Ya that sucks, I didn't realize that your earnings were affected significantly. That's worth doing what it takes to find the root of the problem. If you are certain that it is a Google system flaw then you really have no choice but to keep hounding them until you reach resolve with this.

    Are you sure this is the only issue causing a $1500 loss in revenue? There are many other factors that affect earnings. A couple examples:

    1) The most recent PR update had a dramatic affect on my earnings to the good because my PR increased. I have spoken with some that had a PR decline and also relative earnings decrease.
    2) Smart pricing
    3) Rankings

    I know there's more, and this is the last thing you want me to say but let's look at all possibilities. Good luck with this ;)
     
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    #35
    My PR jumped to 5 (was a PR0). My rankings fluctuate, but in general impressions to the page are roughly the same.

    It's not the pricing that concerns me because I know how it varies (I can make 160 bucks one day and the next day make 30 and the clicks/impressions are the same). But when CTR drops significantly, it's because the ads aren't relevant to the search terms (car insurance, car insurance quotes, etc etc).
     
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    #36
    Yesterday I am certain this site was displaying adlinks? www . clantt . com
    Today I am seeing text ad at the top...good idea. I was going to mention that Adlinks are not as sucessful as text ads. You may also want to considering blending. There's and article on my sig that talks about blending, survey says...
     
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    #37
    Oh believe me, I've tried them all.

    I went to the adlinks unit and changed the top to CJ when I noticed my CTR was poor. The earnings I mentioned above were based on the red/yellow banner ad. When I got the ads showing right again yesterday I went ahead and put back my previous color scheme.

    I've tried the blending and noticed mixed results. I've earned more with a color that stands out than I have with one that blends (about a 5% increase in CTR). When the ads are blended within the content it seems to work better, but when it's above the conent like it is between the header and the content posts, you need something to catch the visitor's eye before they hop down to the content. Red and yellow works best because people associate those colors with stop, warning, etc. It's ugly, I know, but it works :)
     
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    #38
    Well, I had thought i solved this issue, but it seems to have reared its ugly head once again.
     
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    #39
    That nasty little gremlin again. I am sorry I do not work with blogs and forums enough to help you. The only info I can offer is...there has to be a reason. Did you try one of my earlier suggestions...if not, dl the entire blog locally and search for 'spyware' 'emergency rescue', 'car safety', etc.

    Just so I am clear here, one your 'TT's World of Warcraft Site' (clantt) is where this problem occurs, right? This site is hosted on a shared server with all your other sites, right?? The reason for my silly questions is this: I have a dedicated server where I host all my sites. 80% of my websites deal with one main subject 'red shoes'. When I create a new website (NOTHING TO DO WITH RED SHOES) and ad AS code I notice that it frequently displays ads for 'Red Shoes' even though the site has absolutely nothing to do with 'red shoes'.
     
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    #40
    Yeah, that's the site I'm talking about. All my pages are underneath that domain. That domain is on a shared server.

    In regards to your other comment about creating a new site not related to the content of the domain. Yeah, I get World of warcraft ads on my new pages where mediapartner's hasn't done a successful crawl yet. This I'm not concerned too much about because it usually fixes itself.

    One thing I noticed today with that competitior's site I mentioned previously was that 1carinsurance.org and www. 1carinsurance.org display different ads. Without the www gives ads related to the content (about purchasing car insurance) while having the www. delivers ads related to virus removal, spyware, safety, etc.

    Both my site and his are in the co-op too.
     
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