Adsense - FRAUD !! RIPPER on INTERNET or Am I Wrong ... EVERYONE Please See This !

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    Hello ,

    I am adsense publisher from 1 year now ... but i use to wonder how come my earning are so low , even despite so much bandwidth and server load of visitors !

    Adsense showed me around 50000 page views each day and around 40 - 50 clicks each days ... i was not happy

    But today i tool services of clickaider ... and i was shocked to see my site today got more than 100 clicks ... but still adsense showed i got less mere 48 clicks ...

    I thought it may be that All clicks are not from accepted traffic ... but to my wonder all were from US or Good Countries ... like UK , etc ...

    Still they accepted only 48 clicks !

    I am posting the screenshots below ... Please refer them and refer who is the fraud here :mad:

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    Please tell me what to do ... i need everyone to participate and help me out !!




     
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    seanro Banned

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    Anyone has a word for it :(
     
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    Trapped Well-Known Member

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    I would rather first check if clickaider has the "hover" bug on their code too (just as adlogger) has it. For example, i have installed and protect my adsense code with adlogger, every time i HOVER the mouse on the ads adlogger will count it as click (but in fact it isn't), it will also count as clicks the ones that are being clicked.

    So just, check around about this before you come and blast a big company like that. I doubt they would STEAL anything (even tho, there is still a question to which they have not responded to me, on a certain type of site with low traffic, i received two clicks and the earnings were just 1 cent...khm..what the heck a click costs half cent? Anyway they still have to reply me (well, it is not like they HAVE TO but, would be good if they did and explained).
     
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    seanro Banned

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    ClickAider is in Beta ... They have all tools installed !
    I bet they cant be wrong ... :(

    Shall i shoot email to google ?
     
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    You have a terribly low ctr. Bad ad placement ?
    I would rather trust google than clickaider anyway. But just email google.
     
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    You bet they can't be wrong because they are showing you more clicks? How do you KNOW you are getting more than 48 clicks on Adsense? I suggest doing some actual investigation and having some evidence before going off like this.
     
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    seanro Banned

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    i agree with you ... i have low CTR .. but placement is good :(
    i also think i trust google .. but :confused:


    As i told i gave clickaider account which showed i got 103 clicks ! and google showed only 48 ....
    I am afraid google will ban me if i contact them :mad:
     
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    usmanzali Well-Known Member

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    Hm try using another service rather then click aider, if other show the same results then contact google. So you have proof:D
     
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    seanro Banned

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    Very Nice Idea .. Can you please suggest some more services .. like ClickAider :eek:
     
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    Consider this: Google is very aware that these third party systems exist. Now how stupid would they be to be counting only half the legitimate clicks? Because of differences in browsers, these programs all have to do a bit of intuiting to decide when a click has been made. They aren't going to be right all of the time. I doubt that ANYONE running a third party tracker is having the clicks reported by it be EXACTLY the same as Google. You, yourself, said that clickaider is in beta.
     
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    Placement or colors are not good if you get so low ctr.

    It is not against the adsense TOS to contact them :D Go ahead. Is this a social network site? Please tell what kind of site it is.
     
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    I run a multi forum host ... so can not bet colour ... they are changed randomly ...


    You are right ... why will google lie ... :( but what if they lie :p


    Thanks Alot .. will surely sign up with those and post the reports here

    You edited after i post :p anyways its a forum network :rolleyes:
     
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    My big surprise is that you're surprised. And the lack of response from the forum. Different markets are different, and Google decides what is trash and what isn't. I have heard that if your bounce rate is high then you lose.

    Anyway....take an afternoon and make an information product.

    Sell that instead. You not only get 100% profits, but you get the customers contact info too. ( For Future sales.) Odd are your conversion rate will be way better that adsense.
     
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    ClickAider should not count moving the mouse over advertisement as a clicks,
    and in our tests it reports number of clicks much closer to official Google numbers.

    There are few things to keep in mind however:

    - Clicks on Link Unit are counted a clicks on units themselves while Google counts the clicks on the advertisers displayed after you click on link unit.

    - If you have "right click" over Ad in FireFox this is counted as a click. This is done as most typically you would do right click to open Advertisement in new
    window or new tab.

    - If you switch the window while your mouse is over Advertisement it will be counted as a click. But this should happen rather rarely as most typically you change windows using mouse.

    In general we do not think the true difference should be anywhere close to two times and I'd suspect there are some clicks which are not counted by Google for some reason, may be public Ads or may be simply potential fraud clicks.... I do not know.

    Of course there is another chance and we might have some other bug which we do not know about yet.
     
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    Nice explanation
     
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