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AdSense fraud - enough is enough!

Discussion in 'Guidelines / Compliance' started by Blogmaster, Apr 17, 2005.

  1. #1
    What can be done, guys?
    It is getting out of control
    Everyday new people sign up for adsense, get a free blog and ask one another to exchange clicks.
    What can be done?
    Should we wait until there is an adsense coop click echange network?

    Seriously ... we need some suggestions here on what can be done from the webmasters angle to prevent this.

    it is worse than search engine spam and affects all of us!!!
    SEMrush

    Mike
     
    Blogmaster, Apr 17, 2005 IP
    SEMrush
  2. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    Pitty, but now when I start and Adwords campaign I choose not to have my ads shown on other websites and stick to the Google page.

    I loose many potential customers, but also cut out my risks of fraud.

    Google really doesn't care about the 50-buck-a-month cheaters, but those are the ones that end up draining your advertising budget.
     
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  3. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    A lot of these dudes are in Junior High, what they call an experiment costs advertisers money.
     
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    paymentapprovaltooslow Banned

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    #4
    I was a clickbank affiliate for awhile selling on adwords. I almost bought the googlecash ebook but didn't.

    If anyone has had success with adwords, please LMK. I will pay to know your tips or secrets. I read on the web that alot of people can't convert with adwords for most products they sell.

    It is frustrating the adwords system. Infact, PPC structure is frustrating. I only adwords for search.

    I predict smaller advertisers are going to abandon adwords when it stops converting and just more to overture which has better fraud controls and better refund policies.

    I sell expensive ebook products so I can afford a low converison rate, but those who sell much cheaper products can't.
     
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    Shoemoney $

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    google provides you with tools to track how your campaign is doing. For instance on my site I sell subscriptions to my website. Once someone has completed the paypal checkout they are refered to a page that has google code on it for what it refers to as a conversion. This way you can track how many people are coming from google and what percent are buying. You can even break it down to how much it costs you per sale. My statistics as of Jan 1 for the year of 2004 It was basically costing me about 8%. Pretty fricking outstanding =)

    Course now that ive read up on all this seo stuff and am #1 on all search engines for my industry I dont advertise anymore. But that was not that long ago
     
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    I have made a very bad experience with a ppc engine in the past, not overture or google, another one. So far overture and Google adwords are ahead but the way things are going, there will be turmoil.
     
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    Agree ST. :(
     
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    khushal Well-Known Member

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    Well sitetutor i am afraid you are right!!! but dont you think every one should deal with his own business,i mean i myself am a 15 days old blogger and an adsense user and you wont believe i havent even made more than 4$ in these days but what should i do ,everyone should try.
    if the Webmasters are all very worried about this why dont they make there sites outstanding so as it attracts people from all over the world and so make them click too.we have no right to stop others from using Adsense.as far as the click exchange is concerned i dont think google is so stupid it wont be able to detect these kinda frauds.
     
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  9. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

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    it's not about being stupid but overwhelmed.
     
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    khushal Well-Known Member

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    Can you tell wahts overwhelmed?
     
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    The amount of employees vs. the growing amount of click frauders
     
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    fryman Kiss my rep

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    khushal Well-Known Member

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    #13
    well then certainly the amount of click faruders will thrice to the employees dont you think.
     
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    lol Khushal ... sorry dude, but what excatly are you saying?
     
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    fryman Kiss my rep

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    #15
    Seems that they are just focusing on the big cheaters and leaving the mini-cheaters alone.

    Problem is that there are thousands of mini-cheaters on the loose
     
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    I think so too . IMO it is the criterias to accept adsense affiliates which should be worked on.
     
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    #17
    How many kids have we seen over here getting banned? It also seems that any hillbilly
    can build a website and slap up some banners on it. I haven't seen any advertising network that accepts 99.9% of the publishers that want to join them. What happens is that you end up with a load of crappy sites.

    The correct approach would be to carefuly review the sites, and if you want to ad the code on another site, have it aproved again, just like any normal advertising network does.

    But, what would that mean? Millions of dollars less in revenue and hundreds of new emplyees needed. And we all know that Google is just a big pile of money and they want more and more.
     
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    That is where the problem is. So what could be the solution? No blogs accepted unless they are being hosted on a real url?
    Boy, I hope Google reads this.
     
    Blogmaster, Apr 18, 2005 IP
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    khushal Well-Known Member

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    ha ha ha but dont you ppl think that kids have also got the right to earn some revenue and prove to there parents that what they do on internet is not just wate of time.i myself consider myself as a kid.
     
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    Khushal, of course you should be able to make money. But there is a way to go about it. If your mindset is to trick Google and it's advertisers, it's wrong!
    If you are serious, here are some suggestions having looked at your blog:
    Create your own content, don't just quote other articles, you may actually rank.
    You may actually have a lot of revisitors some of which will click your ads and generate revenue for you.
    You should also get rid of those foreign characters in there.
     
    Blogmaster, Apr 18, 2005 IP