adsense driving me crazy

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by gretel, Apr 10, 2007.

  1. #1
    I have only 2 cent a click for my wallpaper site.
    I know wallpaper sites have low payouts but it used to be 5 cents and its getting worse and worse everyday.
    I keep blocking mfa and low cpc sites but those sites keep appearing on my site.
    What should i do to get higher earnings for a click?
     
    gretel, Apr 10, 2007 IP
  2. 8everything

    8everything Peon

    Messages:
    16,350
    Likes Received:
    903
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #2
    How much traffic are you getting? (uniques) Is your CTR below 1%? Maybe the problem is traffic.
     
    8everything, Apr 10, 2007 IP
  3. gretel

    gretel Guest

    Messages:
    435
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #3
    i get 10 % ctr and very much traffic
     
    gretel, Apr 10, 2007 IP
  4. 8everything

    8everything Peon

    Messages:
    16,350
    Likes Received:
    903
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #4
    :confused: 10% is very high.. and if you get a lot of traffic that means a lot of clicks.. are you getting several clicks for only 2 cents?
     
    8everything, Apr 10, 2007 IP
  5. gretel

    gretel Guest

    Messages:
    435
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #5
    how should i know if i get several clicks for only 2 cents,2 cents is the avarage.
    Thats what i find strange i have high ctr but low cpc
     
    gretel, Apr 10, 2007 IP
  6. frankcow

    frankcow Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,859
    Likes Received:
    265
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    180
    #6
    my clicks/revenue are way down this week... it's driving me crazy too :(
     
    frankcow, Apr 10, 2007 IP
  7. gretel

    gretel Guest

    Messages:
    435
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #7
    Like how bad?
    and what kind of site do you have?
     
    gretel, Apr 10, 2007 IP
  8. 8everything

    8everything Peon

    Messages:
    16,350
    Likes Received:
    903
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #8
    What exactly are your numbers for your unique visiters? I think its best if you try pay per impression.. if you're making 2 cents off a thousand impressions.. you can easily make $2 - $3 with pay per impression..
     
    8everything, Apr 10, 2007 IP
  9. sebastya

    sebastya Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,449
    Likes Received:
    46
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    138
    #9
    forget adsense then..simple as that..
     
    sebastya, Apr 10, 2007 IP
  10. gretel

    gretel Guest

    Messages:
    435
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #10
    thats not what i was saying.
    You are suggesting that i told i get 2 cents per 1000 impressions,thats not what i said.
    I get 2 cents a click.
     
    gretel, Apr 10, 2007 IP
  11. gretel

    gretel Guest

    Messages:
    435
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #11
    and use WHAT instead?
     
    gretel, Apr 10, 2007 IP
  12. chiz

    chiz Peon

    Messages:
    102
    Likes Received:
    5
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #12
    @8everything
    Hmmm pay per impression... Is there really an ad service that offers arrangements like that?
     
    chiz, Apr 10, 2007 IP
  13. 8everything

    8everything Peon

    Messages:
    16,350
    Likes Received:
    903
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #13
    Okay, sorry about the misunderstanding. That is now.. but it is fairly common for your specific type of niche. Ever tried.. rewording your keywords and content a bit so other ads appear (do you notice the same frequent ads?)

    There's fastclick... (those annoying smilie ads, they're everywhere)
     
    8everything, Apr 10, 2007 IP
  14. gretel

    gretel Guest

    Messages:
    435
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #14

    you think when i change keywords and stuff that i will get better paying ads?
     
    gretel, Apr 10, 2007 IP
  15. hans

    hans Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,923
    Likes Received:
    126
    Best Answers:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    173
    #15
    1.
    if you change your template - SEO you may have more DIFFERENT adsense topics displayed and higher paying ads appearing
    example
    http://members.home.nl/yourdesktop/anime.htm
    your meta title is:
    <title>Free Wallpapers - Anime Wallpapers</title>
    i definitely would REMOVE the "Free Wallpapers" that you seem to have on every page and add a more page related keyword title after the second part of your titles

    2.
    you are very definitely missing a most important adsense revenue on all pages - horizontal link units all on TOP of each page

    3.
    your bottom adsense unit and your own link-text JUST above that unit "Click here for more Wallpapers"
    while your text is a link - of course you intented ppl to click on the ads below as well - which in turn might be interpreted as inviting to click ads >> against TOS

    in addtition
    that bottom unit is NONE of the G-published 3 successful units

    4.
    since you focus on your meta title so much on FREE ...
    example
    http://members.home.nl/yourdesktop/highresolution.htm
    the 2 adsense units on top of your page - i.e. the 2 336x280 unites totalling 8 ad-slots - ONLY 6 nslots occupied
    hence you offer more ad-slots than advertisers bidding - thus reducing bidder price ( see my blog on that topic )

    also

    since you focus on FREE wallpapers
    5 out of the 6 advertisers offer FREE products
    hence free stuff-business always are low bidding business

    5.
    furthermore
    on a.m. URL
    you have adsense units with
    google_ad_type = "text";

    that means you exclude image ads and video ads !???
    why FGS ?
    i have every once in a while image ads or even video ads v- both are much higher paying than plain text ads

    by restricting advertisers you reduce competition and hence you plan to lose $ as well - the less competition you ALLOW - or with other words - the more competition YOU EXCLUDE on your pages, the cheaper advertising becomes for the remaining bidders
    you must love them a lot :)

    final point
    i too have wallpapers - all selfmade - with some 2+k pageviews/day and i am doing all fine the past months and days as well

    the global competition grows - so does the challenge to improve day after day or you get lost in the ocean-waves of dynamic competition

    p.s.:
    you have a few truly beautiful wallpapers!
    some of them at least however seem to have NO wallpaper size ... just ANY size
     
    hans, Apr 10, 2007 IP
  16. tastysites

    tastysites Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    961
    Likes Received:
    53
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    153
    #16
    I have a generic wallpaper site, and 2 - 5 cents a click is the norm for me. Interesting tips from Norm above, will be looking at his post in more detail.

    However, it is helpful to wrap a business model around a low payout so you know how much work and traffic is required to make a decent income. Any niche can fluctuate in how much is paid out per click, so this way you are just happily surprised when you make more!

    My 2 - 5 cents ;)
    tasty
     
    tastysites, Apr 10, 2007 IP
  17. gretel

    gretel Guest

    Messages:
    435
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #17
    I think i did all the suggestions you made to me ,hans.
    Please revieuw my site again and tell me what you think.
     
    gretel, Apr 10, 2007 IP
  18. hans

    hans Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,923
    Likes Received:
    126
    Best Answers:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    173
    #18
    YES :)

    now it looks perfect with your titles on each page -
    allow google up a few weeks until the next google mediabot run is over on all pages until the ads will change

    also

    ADD a horizontal link unit 5 links ALL the way on TOP of each page - top center.
    create a new channel for the link unit - you may get surprised !!
    i make up to a few dozen $ / day just from those top link units - in average around 20-30+% of the total revenue !!

    remember
    the link unit is in ADDITION to the max 3 ad units on each page!

    if you add more wallpapers - you may want to create more SUB-sections with more different precise titles
    the more different precise titles you have - the more different categories of advertisers you invite

    make sure you participate in the "advertise on this site"
    it is well worth it!!
    understand that if you have a large site/large visitor numbers you WILL/may most likley attract good advertisers for CPM - they too have to compete with text ads no worry about $

    the more advertisers compete the higher the $ until all bidders have reached their max $ limit
     
    hans, Apr 10, 2007 IP
  19. chiz

    chiz Peon

    Messages:
    102
    Likes Received:
    5
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #19
    Thanks for the info, 8everything! :)

    @Hans
    Great tips dude! Will keep this in mind when I adjust my ads. Thanks!
     
    chiz, Apr 12, 2007 IP
  20. hans

    hans Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,923
    Likes Received:
    126
    Best Answers:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    173
    #20
    re my
    ADD a horizontal link unit 5 links ALL the way on TOP of each page - top center.

    i really meant on TOP of each page - very top - NOT just above the 2 rectangular units.

    the TOP position for links is by far my most successwful link position $-wise!

    i also would make the link colors standard blue like regular links instead of green.

    also be flexible with the number of ad-UNITS you place
    right now for example I view your page
    highresolution.htm

    and in the 2 rect ad-units on top of page i see only a total of link-3 ads - hence from your total offer of 8 ad-slots 5 slots are free
    that makes the prices DROP down

    of course some advertisers use geo-targeting and in other countries there might be more ads appearing

    also

    in such cases of limited advertisers - to have 2 different ads - like your top potisiton rectangles in different Successful formats" mihgt help to increase the number of advertisers appearing - example:
    a 336x280 PLUS a 300x250 side by side - instead of two of equal format may show different advertisers

    generally the 336x280 brings more$ than its smaller partner
    in caŝes of limited advertisers i reduce to 1 single ad unit - the most expensive one 336x280 - until all ad slots are filled

    a complex channel system allows me to adapt individually and adjust demand and offer of ad-space to keep pricing UP!
    i wrote about smart pricing in my blog (below sig link)
     
    hans, Apr 12, 2007 IP