Adsense Cheater - Open request to click on Adsense ads

Your right Fryman, it is time for both of us to move on

 

Agreed.

 

There's no reason not to use adwords because of a few cheaters.

Big G will find out in time and reimburse adword users and/or will not count those clicks.
I'm sure that fraudulent clicks aren't on the bill of adword users.

 

Arnie - I haven't stopped using Adwords but you can be sure I don't use content on ANY of my campaigns. The converion rate on those ads has always been horrible BECAUSE of people like the one this thread highlighted.

I agree it gets boring to just keep posting simple comments like "You suck" but there IS a use for posting those who blatantly ignore the TOS that costs us money.

 

That's denying yourself a great marketing opportunity. All yuo have to do is disable the content network in your account. Search triggered ads are still well worth the money IMO.

 

That's what we are doing. We bring the scumbags down so we are better off loosing less money. The more we help eachother, the more we save.

AC, I take it you're not advertising on AdWords. You're defending the forum's reputation, we are defending our bank account. Different interests here plus I don't see how this can damage the forum. You are not affected if you're not in AdWords so why not stay out of it? There's no need to stop us exposing these people. Without doing so it will go on forever and we'll loose thousands of bucks.

The live links are fine as well. Half of them ignorant assholes don't even know they are violating the TOS because they are too dumb to read it or plain criminals and violate it willingly. I welcome them checking their referer logs and come here to see how we frown upon it. At least they'll know and quit doing it like the Designcrowd dude. It seems like you are scared to do something ugly for a bit whilst it's better for the long term. I'm fine saying how it is, I'm not going to bow down to these fuckers.

DP simply is on the forefront of everything online, same with busting cheaters.

PS, I'm up for contributing in a blog as mentioned. Call it Cheaters Exposed or something and I'll help nail'em all.

 

adsensepolice.com - AVAILABLE

 

So is www.AdsenseCheaters.Com

 

I wouldn't want to mess with G though. And when Y and MSN launch their equivalents that name is too restrictive.

Something a bit less specific is better IMO. Advertiserbodyguard.com cheatersexposed.com etc.

 

I agree...I wouldn't actually register anything with their name or copyright in it (Josh- Don't take my posting of the url as advice to buy it or use it )

 

Maybe you missed the point of the thread TOPS, Google does not need this forum to be it's enforcement arm, they do not want us communicating with their customers, publishers, fraudulent publishers or young kids that are ignorant and think they can get free money by doing these things.

What will you do next, move to India and shut down click fraud rings all in the name of Digital Point?

Google does not need us to find violators of the ADSENSE TOS, they can find everyone "if they want to do it", they don't need a bunch of kids on Digital Point posting live links and bringing everyone who puts "support us by clicking on our ADSENSE ads" on their pages into the forum, then having all the members here making stupid comments and hurling insults at the "so called violators".

Digital Point is not a clearing house for this stupidity and there are thousands of publishers in violation of TOS and members here do not want to be judge, jury and executioner over each of these cases.

 

So what? Google might not want it necessarily, Shawn might not necessarily like it but the threadstarter and 9 out of 10 replying DO want to do this. I'm fine with taking it onto a seperate domain. But I'm fine with seeing this pop up here on DP every time a bust is done as well. Without exposure people won't know. Advertisers won;t know they're being ripped off, and publishers won't know they are violating the TOS (which is BS because they should have read it).

If it's true that Google doesn't want to be helped then you are suggesting they can handle it themselves. It took me 3 minutes to dig out half a dozen offenders who are still running OUR ads. 1 and 1 is 2 so it seems to me like Google DOESN'T have the capacity to deal with it OR doesn't want to, which makes them part of the scam and that makes them ignorant towards a big problem that their advertisers are facing.

Exposure is the key. There's no reason why we can't discuss it here in the appropriate forums as long as Shawn is fine with it (which he is as long as we don't get G on his case with TOS violating posts).

Google should do more about it IMO. Imagine a WWW wide boycot of their content network from AW advertisers. That'll cost them and get their asses into gear.

So AC... Are you currently an AdWords advertiser or not?

 

I know thats why I posted it

 

Google reads this forum TOPS and they did not approve of the last "DP police" effort when we sent a spoof email out that broke the law.

Let Google do their job, like I said "if they want to" they can find each of these people, it is not your job.

If you want to start a forum or a website to do this go ahead and do it, but this kind of activity has no place here.

It is silly to post live links and draw thousands of pissed off webmasters to Digital Point and create bad will for this forum that is growing right now and you know this first hand.

I can tell you that some of the members are kind of tired of it and that it is getting old fast.

Why not focus on better subjects, everyone knows that there are folks like Lawsuit and all these others out there, that is nothing new and Google does not want us doing their job for them.

 

I know and as I said in my previous post, as long as we do it the right way no one has ground to object.

They're clearly not doing their job and people need to be educated about it or it will go on.

I don't agree. It's fine here as it is.

Disagree again. Live links will get their attention and will educate them. Discussing it behind their backs is useless because they might not be aware they're doing something wrong.

Skip the threads then. I'm tired of Optigold posts. So what? Seems like yo are the only one who doesn't want to expose people who steal our money.

Some people like doing this exposing for fun or they do it for the bigger picture n the hope it will make a change. Staying quiet abut it is definitely not the way to go about it.

Change requires acknowledgement of the problems. And awareness.

Just don't post here if you don't like it man. It doesn't have anything to do with you, it's not your money being stolen. It's not your website being exposed. It's not your forum we post this in. Just accept for once that things don't always go your way and move on.

BTW You keep doing the exact same with M$ and the other big corporate giants. Well, we keep doing it with the small Joe Blogs and anything bigger than that. What's the difference Anthony? What's the difference between us exposing their crimes and you exposing M$ crimes? The Bush crimes etc.?

Why don't you save your energy and move on. We will saty right here where we are in this thread and will gladly post about cheaters again.

 

TOPS I did not even see the live links you posted below when I made my addition to this thread, it just seems that you are trying to justify doing these things and somehow prove the virtue of what you are doing.

I will also bring you back to the fact that I posted in another thread 3 or 4 days ago that anyone could do a simple search and find all these violators real easy and that is exactly what you and others are doing.

But for what reason? Just to draw attention to these silly threads and start a shit fight with other webmasters?

Really TOPS where do you think this is going to lead?

 

Very well said T0PS3O

 

To more busted criminals or criminals who see the light and start to behave. Either way it will lead to less fraudulent clicks. And that means more money for us to spend on real advertising. And it gives us back some faith in the system.

 

The more cheaters that are identified and kicked out the better, adwords people will waste less money and be prepared to pay more cpc if they know its good traffic and the adsense guys will make more money - Both people win.

 

OK, let us discuss the wisdom of leaving live links while doing "a so-called investigation" of the violators.

How smart is it to leave a live link as in some of the other threads and within 10 minutes the violator is invited into the thread and we have a shit fight with members hurling insults at the one we are investigating.

Digital Point is not the Jerry Springer show TOPS where we invite folks on just to fight with them, what enjoyment do you get out of this?

What kind of reflection is that on a cutting edge forum that is supposed to be discussing the wonderful tools that Shawn creates and the co-op network.

You would think that your focus would be on the new Keyword tracker that is now tracking MSN & Yahoo.