Adsense can't login to my site

Yes I know that many people probly have problems with google adsense logging in to websites to get page information.
I run a text based rpg, its rather small, not many users only about 1200 users and only around 100 of them are regular players. I get about 800k in page impressions monthly and a ctr rate of 01%, I have only been in the google adsense program for about 2 months, and I have made about $500...
Anyways, so I started asking my players what the ads were they saw, because that preview tool isn't availible, and they replied it had to do with security and logs.. the message for not being logged in while trying to access a member page is "You have been logged out for security purposes. Please log back in."
So my question is, is it within adsense terms for me to create a page for google to see when it can't get past login? Or should I create a google account.. where the google bot logs in to the game.. The second one is a more difficult option because that could lead to evil people figuring out and logging into the google account.

 

uhhh google bot doesn't do anything, it just views text etc, so it can't log in. it can only view your webpage as if you had cleared you cache, cookies, everything.

 

Yes I know this, but as a programmer I can make it so the google bot has access to the site with a login without the use of a cookie but more effort on my part..
I want to know if I am aloud to just make a page about my site so the keywords or whatever would be in it...
google.php is the page that google would see if it went to any member page, it doesn't contain false words I copied and pasted some of my help file and some of my game introduction file.

 

hmmm i dunno...then technically it wouldn't be "seeing" the same page as the users. is there a way to let the google bot in by IP only?

 

Does anyone know the google bots IP? I think there is more then one... This would be a much more secure way of doing it other then tracking the browser name...

 

I was going to say that I don't think the program policy allows you to put ads on pages that require a login to view but I can't find that bit anymore (or the bit about not putting it on registration and login pages!)

Maybe on these pages that can't be accessed put an error message (You must login) and then a paragraph of text introducing what the games is and some details on it.

I would avoid against just sticking a load of keywords on the pages but stick to real information on your actual site contents as much as possible.

 

The ad is actually only on pages that you are logged into...
But the question still remains... Does anyone know the google bots IP?

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it against the TOS to display ads on pages requiring a login?

Providing different content to the adsensebot that is different than what users see is also a problem.

 

The only rule that gets close to this login stuff you guys are talking about is
Prohibited Uses. You shall not, and shall not authorize or encourage any third party to: (i) directly or indirectly generate queries, impressions of or clicks on any Search Results, Links and/or Ad(s) through any automated, deceptive, fraudulent or other invalid means, including but not limited to through repeated manual clicks, the use of robots or other automated query tools and/or computer generated search requests, and/or the unauthorized use of other search engine optimization services and/or software; (ii) edit, modify, filter or change the order of the information contained in any Ad, Link, Ad Unit, or Search Result, or remove, obscure or minimize any Ad, Link, Ad Unit, or Search Result in any way; (iii) frame, minimize, remove or otherwise inhibit the full and complete display of any Web page accessed by an end user after clicking on any part of an Ad ("Advertiser Page") or any Google-hosted Web page that contains Ads and/or Search Results ("Search Results Page"); (iv) redirect an end user away from any Advertiser Page or Search Results Page, provide a version of the Advertiser Page or Search Results Page that is different from the page an end user would access by going directly to the Advertiser Page or the applicable Search Results Page, intersperse any content between the Ad and the Advertiser Page or between the page containing the Search Box and the Search Results Page, otherwise provide anything other than a direct link from an Ad to an Advertiser Page or from the page containing the Search Box to the Search Results Page; (v) display any Ad(s) or Link(s) on any error page, on any registration or "thank you" page (e.g., a page that thanks a user after he/she has registered with the applicable Web site), on any chat page, in any email, or on any Web page or any Web site that contains any pornographic, hate-related, violent, or illegal content; (vi) directly or indirectly access, launch and/or activate Ads, Links or Search Results through or from, or otherwise incorporate the Ads, Links or Search Results in, any software application, Web site or other means other than Your Site(s), and then only to the extent expressly permitted by this Agreement (e.g., while Search Results may be indirectly accessed from Your Site(s), they may only be displayed on the appropriate Google-hosted Web page); (vii) "crawl", "spider", index or in any non-transitory manner store or cache information obtained from any Search Results, Links and/or Ad(s) or any part, copy or derivative thereof, or (viii) act in any way that violates any Program Policies posted on the Google Web Site, as may be revised from time to time, or any other agreement between You and Google (including without limitation the Google AdWords program terms), or engage in any action or practice that reflects poorly on Google or otherwise disparages or devalues Google’s reputation or goodwill. You acknowledge that any attempted participation or violation of any of the foregoing is a material breach of this Agreement and that we may pursue any and all applicable legal and equitable remedies against You, including an immediate suspension of Your account or termination of this Agreement, and the pursuit of all available civil or criminal remedies.

Which only states it can't be on register page or activation of register page. So the login part isn't against the TOS...
I have read the TOS, my website doesn't go against any of it to my knowledge.

 

There are lots of google bot ips.. Too many to practically hard code for and they add new ones all the time..

I don't know that there is a way to easily do what you want to really.. You could look at allowing any traffic that has google-bot it's DNS info..

 

What's the URL of the site?

 

www(dot)bladesling(dot)com/sl/
Sorry I can't post the real link until 10 posts

 

reading the FAQ:

Relevant links:
The quote above
https://www.google.com/support/adse...0763&ctx=en:search&query=login&topic=0&type=f
and
How do I grant access to your crawler?
https://www.google.com/support/adsense/bin/answer.py?answer=10532

 

What I fear is the google bot accidentally joining a guild or something lol

 

I signed up and had a look around the game a bit and a lot of the pages don't seem to have large sections of content on them anyway..

You may be better off adding a paragraph or two that is relevant to the game on your "You have been logged out for security reasons" error pages. So said I would check with google before you do anything as you certainly don't want to be seen to be serving "keyword" content in error pages unless it is valid information.. Something along the lines of "What is Savage Lands all about" as opposed to generic text about RPGs and the like.

The only other "problem" you might have is that if you have the same text on every single page then google will see it as being carbon copies of the content and may penalise you..

 

I should rephrase

There are a lot of pages that link you from one page to the other with small amounts of text on the page but other pages have lots of content..

 

Poo.. Well I guess I am going to have to let it log in :\
I wonder if it will kill things... I mean, doesn't a google bot click every link? I have thousands of links in the game lol... This is going to be interesting to monitor

 

ad on your homepage looks very bad with firefox.

 

I wish I could see it.. the preview install tool isn't availible at the moment or something.