Firstly you could argue the situation of the members. They need money and didn't know the banning rate and how google can act off their suspicions. Secondly you could get into demographics about how no one even bothers to read the TOS. It would make court easy. I have done a law degree.
What utter nonsense. Look - here's how it works. Stage 1: AdSense picks up an odd pattern of clicks and automatically bans (or suspends) your account as click fraud. If you do nothing further, that's where it ends. Why would they pay money for fraudulent clicks? Why would they pay you the money you stole? Stage 2: IF you appeal and provide reasonable evidence to support your appeal, AdSense invetsigate further. If your appeal is upheld, they reinstate you and the amount in your account. This has happened to my knowledge to several people. Conclusion: If you did in fact commit or counsel or tolerate click fraud on your site, you did not EARN that money in the first place and Google owes you nothing. The monies fraudulently earned are returned to the AdWords customers from whom it was stolen. If the unnatural click pattern has a reasonable and rational explanation, you as the publisher will get your account and your money returned.
AdSenseDetective.com is even easier to use than Adlogger. It's all web-based. Paste the code on your pages with AdSense and it tracks all clicks and logs IPs. I had one person walk up to me at a conference lately to tell me they got the "invalid clicks" email, and by showing Google their AdSenseDetective logs, they provided that a bunch of clicks were coming from a foreign IP. Don't mean for this to sound like a commercial, but it is good insurance against something like this. Jon Leger's AdSense Tracker is also good, though it is server based and needs to be installed on your own server. Joel
This isn't a comment on the product (I may even have a look at it myself) but I have got to say this: That is one spammy looking and scammy looking page you have there. It manages to do just about everything I would personally recommend AVOIDING doing on a web page, complete with downloading some unrequested audio file that I killed as quickly as I could. If you have a decent product, make the web page(s) advertising that product look a little classier. You might just find you get a bit more business that way.
Your AdSense account was banned only 15 days after your started using it? Tells me something obviously wrong with site. It usually takes Google longer to catch invalid clicks. Post url and probably can tell you exactly what went wrong.
Perhaps you'd like to take the lead representing the banned folks here. Let us know how it goes. Arguing that no one bothers to read the TOS? Do me a favor at let me know the court date because I want to be there to watch that defense in person! That's like: "Your honor, I move this case be dismissed because my client, like most motorists, doesn't bother to look at speed limit signs"
The TOS says they may ban me or stop me from participating from the program. I do not care that Google banned me because I was going to stop using AdSense but I DO care that they are not paying me the money I earned. I am going to go back to the example of hiring someone to work for me. I hire a Contractor and then I am suspicious of him and in the contract it says if he does not do his job properly I have every right to terminate the contract. However, I still have to pay him for the work he has done. What people cant seem to grasp is that I am not worried about the ban, if I really wanted to get back on AdSense I could because this was under one of my business, I could still use personal or my other business EIN. But, thats not the point. The point is they are illegally and unethically stopping people from working. If Google is reporting me to the IRS for tax, I am the employee right? So, that s wrongful termination of work. I could have a TOS that says "if you work for me you have to sleep with everyone at work or you can be fired at any time". Its the TOS but it is still illegal to do that. I know Adpubster & minsterl that you are one of those 'holier than thou' kind of people who thinks they are better than everyone else until they get screwed.
This just reeks of BS. You had AdSense in place for like 15 days. You recently removed encouragements to "support our sponsors". You were going to stop using it anyway. And etc., etc. Show us the URL. As someone said previously, I'd bet anyone could tell you in about 15 minutes why you were banned.
LOL, you're entitled to your opinion. Just pointing out the facts as they are represented in the contract that you "signed". I, myself, do not necessarily agree with them all, but it's a price to pay to be in the program I suppose. If your contractor was stealing from you (suppose that was the suspicion that you had of him) would you not get back from him what he stole? In the Google case, they are doing just that...fraudulent clicks are a form of stealing. Now, if they report those earnings to the IRS (the ones that they are not going to pay you), then I think you have every case against them, but I seriously doubt that they will do that.
Did you read the entire thread? I backed up everything I said and I did show the sites to few people but I am not going to be posting the site here. If my site was a scam site or whatever I would not have been accepted by Tribal Fusion. I said I had private sponsors before on my site but decided to test out Adsense and I had that for about 15 days before they banned me. But Adsense did not give me as much money as I should have earned thats why I applied for other programs such as Tribal Fusion, CPX, YPN, etc. and after I was accepted to TF and CPX I was going to remove AdSense and test those out. But AdSense banned me before I could do that.
I would have to PROVE the contractor stole from me and I would get back WHAT he stole from me. Not blindly say "you stole and i wont pay you". My point about reporting to the IRS was that they are an employer and should be bound by any laws that any employer has to abide by. TOS means shit when itself is a violation of the law.
Yes, I read the entire thread. You violated the ToS. You were banned. You appealed. You failed to provide evidence to overturn the ban. You have complained vociferously about this for 7 pages but you would have us believe that you were going to terminate AdSense anyway and you did nothing wrong. Publish the URL. See above.
Okay. It didn't take even 15 minutes - just about 2. I'll honor your request not to publish the URL you sent me, shah2k. I'll just point out that it is: 1. a subscription only site 2. an adult site, by all apearances You really did NOT read the ToS, did you? This is a content issue.
Hello All. Would it be possible for a competiter to target your site to get you banned so that they could get your clicks or ninche? Thanks.
Its and adult site? 95% of members are under 18. its about as subscription based as myspace or any other related sites. If it was a content issue they would have said it was content issue
From Google TOS: You shall receive a payment related to the number of valid clicks on Ads, valid impressions of Ads, and/or valid completions of Referral Events initiated through Referral Buttons displayed in connection with Your Site(s), in each case as determined by Google for its participants in the Program. If You have elected to receive Search Results, this payment will be offset by fees applicable to Search Results. Unless otherwise agreed to by the parties in writing (including by electronic mail), payments to You shall be sent by Google within approximately thirty (30) days after the end of each calendar month that Ads or Referral Buttons are running on Your Site or that Ads are running on Search Results Pages if Your earned balance is $100 or more. In the event the Agreement is terminated, Google shall pay Your earned balance to You within approximately ninety (90) days after the end of the calendar month in which the Agreement is terminated by You (following Google's receipt of Your written request, including by email, to terminate the Agreement) or by Google. In no event, however, shall Google make payments for any earned balance less than $10. Notwithstanding the foregoing, Google shall not be liable for any payment based on: (a) any amounts which result from invalid queries, invalid Referral Events, or invalid clicks or impressions on Ads generated by any person, bot, automated program or similar device, as reasonably determined by Google, including without limitation through any clicks or impressions (i) originating from Your IP addresses or computers under Your control, (ii) solicited by payment of money, false representation, or request for end users to click on Ads, or (iii) solicited by payment of money, false representation, or any illegal or otherwise invalid request for end users to complete Referral Events; (b) Ads or Referral Buttons delivered to end users whose browsers have JavaScript disabled;