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Discussion in 'Guidelines / Compliance' started by virtualkev, Aug 10, 2005.

  1. jlawrence

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    #21
    Indeed fryman. There is a bit in the TOS that says something along the lines of "you either own the site or are legally authorized to act on behalf of the owner". This reads to me that the site owner can display your code if you give him the legal right to do so - by entering your ID in your profile then you're doing that.
    If G see your adsense code appearing on sites that you don't own, and they know of no relationship between you and that site then I'm sure they'd start asking questions.
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    I was under the impression google had ok'd this specifically... I dont know for sure though and dont really care either way. I think its a cool idea.
     
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    dkalweit Well-Known Member

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    #23

    So, Mr. A has an Adsense account. Mr. B had one, but got banned because http://www.mrbsbadsite.com/ had gambling ads or something.

    Mr. B doesn't like Mr. A, because he sneezed on him and didn't excusive himself. Mr. B goes to Mr. A's site(http://www.mrasgreatsite.com/), copies and pastes Mr A's adsense code and puts it on his(Mr B's) site(http://www.mrbsbadsite.com/). Google then thinks that Mr. A must have purchased Mr. B's bad site, and put his adsense on it.

    How, technically or even logically, can Google know that Mr. A didn't put the code onto Mr. B's bad site?

    Mr. B doesn't have other adsense on his site
    Mr. A can have more than one site
    Mr. A doesn't generate adsense code for a specific site
    Mr. A doesn't have to add the bad site to his account
    Mr. B doesn't need any technical approval to place Mr. A's code on his site

    Mr. B won't profit from said ads, but his motive is to sabatoge Mr. B and get him banned. Mr. B doesn't care about being caught if he is, because his account was already banned.

    Again, what logically is possible?

    The closest technical thing I could find, is that none of Mr. A's known IP's have ever requested a google ad hosted on http://www.mrbsbadsite.com/. To prove this, however, Google would have to record every IP of every impression of every ad on the entire internet. This is technically possible, but even with Google's huge data centers is quite unfeasable.


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  4. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    #24
    No, google knows that B is putting up A's code
     
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    #25
    actually this has happened to me.

    What happened was somebody stole my whole page and put it up on there site. Then they put some porn content. Google emailed me and asked me to remove the code from that site. I emailed back and said I didnt own the site. They said thank you and then only psa's showed on that site.

    This has happened to me i think 3 times now. many people scrape my content
     
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    #26
    Sounds like the only viable option. When planning Adsense they must have thought of this and they deal with it daily im sure ;)
     
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  7. dkalweit

    dkalweit Well-Known Member

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    #27
    Fryman, why do you insist on saying things without backing up what you're saying? Your response is the equivelent of "uh HUH!!!" and covering your ears and saying "nananananana I can't hear you nanananana". Grow up.


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  8. dkalweit

    dkalweit Well-Known Member

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    That's good to hear. I'd have to say I doubt that they do it in all situations, however. Not asking you to specifically disclose it, but I wonder what 'tier' you're in Adsense wise-- for someone <$100/mo, I don't think they'd bother. For those >$1k/mo, I bet they'd care.


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  9. mnemtsas

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    #29
    wtf???? How the hell is this possible. Are you saying that somehow google knows who owns a domain (an remember whois records are NOT reliable)? Or who logs into it via FTP? If you truly believe this how about backing it up with some facts!

    OMG fryman Google are powerful but they are not that powerful. If they were that powerful I'd be scared to swear at them when I'm sitting infront of the screen :D
     
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    #30
    Perhaps fryman thought Google is god and know everything. Google never did wrong. Funny.
     
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    #31
    fryman is a realest imo and we need more people that live in reality around here.

    And I have several adsense accounts... some are small some are big they all recieve the same level of support except for the premium of course.
     
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  12. fryman

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    #32
    Yup, pretty much sums it up...
     
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    #33
    what about enemies clicking like crazy, will that get you banned? or just make you rich?
     
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  14. fryman

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    #34
    It won't make you anything, Google can easily figure out when that is happening. Lol, some kids think that ROMs and monitoring software are the top tech out there and don't even imagine the kind of technology Google has.
     
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    #35
    With all respect Shoemoney (and I have lot of respect for you because you clearly know what you are doing). But Fryman a realist? Fryman is a paranoid little man who figures that making $100 a day in Mexico makes him a big wheel in the rest of the world. If he spent half the time working on his sites that he did belittling people on these forums then he would be in Hawaii or Canada or whatever first world country he wants to move to already.
     
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    #36
    Mr. Fryman, I believe in technology-- not magic. Google is not Santa Claus and not the Easter Bunny. Google is not God or Allah or whatever you worship there in Mexico. Google is limited by the same reality that you and I are limited by. Yes, they have more advanced technology than many, but it still cannot defy logic.


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    #37
    Whatever, dude, sorry, didn't mean to make you and your bodygard cry :D :D :D
     
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    #38
    Fryman, do you have anything to add to the actual topic of this discussion? Why do you refuse to talk about the content? Are you scared you'll be exposed for the fraud you are?


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    I'm sure its possible but that would be major gay
     
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    Fryman I've always liked these forums but the way you monster new posters is shameful. People need to learn and need to be given time to learn. Sure you know more than them and that's great. But help them with your knowledge, don't rub their noses in it. Every person you insult and chase from the forums is someone who in a year or two may have knowledge that you need and can benefit from. Did you ever think of that? Just try engaging your brain before you jump on the keyboard is all I'm saying.
     
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