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Adsense account disabled...who's wrong Google or me??

Discussion in 'Guidelines / Compliance' started by antonaf, Dec 26, 2005.

  1. larysmith711

    larysmith711 Notable Member

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    #21
    That could very well be your problem right there. $23.00 is a waste of time and a few people have reported getting there accounts closed after not generating enough money over a period of 3-4 months. I actually think they have something written into the TOS about it.
     
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    emil2k Well-Known Member

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    #22
    Hey Edz, the link to this is in an article I wrote a few weeks ago exactly about this...

    Check it out...it was called "Beware of AdSense!"

    PS Microsoft is working on bringing down Google, I hope Google lives but I hope Bill humbles them a little they seem to have be come arrogant and in some ways I think they area not trying as hard to fight fradulent clicks because they know that this would cause a huge problem for them...
     
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  3. antonaf

    antonaf Banned

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    #23
    I actually produced much more than $23.00 monthly (I was just kidding), but I definitely never did $2,300 in one month. But, if that was the case then I think they should/would mention the 'account was disabled due to low click-thru rate' and not 'account was closed due to fraudlent clicks'. I'm sure that isn't the reason, because I know some webmasters that produce way less clicks than I did and they've been with Adsense for a year or more. I never seen anythihng about disabling accounts due to low-clicks in the policy, but if you or someone come across that in the policy please share the excerpt.
     
    antonaf, Dec 26, 2005 IP
  4. Edz

    Edz Peon

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    #24
    will spencer wrote:
    Because for you it's common practice??
    Seriously, i'm just kidding :p

    Thanks emil2k for providing the link, i bookmarked it for future reference ;)
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #25
    I do understand that clicks happen by accident and I'm sure that Google is aware of it.
    For example when you work or check on your site, you go to other pages and it happens that you have to clear your mouse in order to use the scroll function. When you work a bit faster as usual and the mouse points just to a link and you don't realize it at this moment- then, there you go.

    So if this happens, don't wait until the site opens. I suggest you stop the site immediately before it opens. Who knows, when people just wait until the site's opens and look at it, browse around, which is recorded through their trackings, then you might be in trouble.
     
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  6. larysmith711

    larysmith711 Notable Member

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    #26
    This is from the TOS page in the 6. Termination; Cancellation section:

     
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  7. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    #27
    Funny how 99.9% of the times someone gets banned he doesn't have a clue about what the TOS say...
     
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  8. antonaf

    antonaf Banned

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    #28
    I'm sure you know the policy frontwards/backwards. Well I admit I do not, I know the policy enough to know I didn't intentionally violate it. I generated a sufficient amount of click (to my standards)...I was in the hundreds (of dollars) every month. Its not a lot but like I said, I knew others who made much less than that...wasn't even clearing a hundred. I was at least nearing 400-600 a month. And I never participated in any fraudlent activity, I'm not dishonest or a criminal.

    But fryman, you are right...until you get banned you really don't have a clue, because I was once just like you, when people use to say they got banned, I thought they were criminal and malice and Google did the right thing banning them. I didn't give second thought to them nor did I give them the benefit of the doubt, now I'm in their shoes and I feel their pain. It's 100% wrong for Google to treat me (and other honest webmasters) like trash! It's a lot different on this side of the track...just wait your turn!
     
    antonaf, Dec 27, 2005 IP
  9. mcfox

    mcfox Wind Maker

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    #29
    I know why your Adsense account was disabled. Firstly, the "invalid clicks" is a catch-all phrase Google use when an account gets disabled. Any click generated outside of the Adsense TOS is invalid, so if you break the TOS, you generate invalid clicks.

    Google dislike pop-ups. Always have from the inception of Adsense. They also dislike gambling and gambling-related sites and state so quite clearly in the TOS. Combine the two, as you have in this site: http://www.contentmasterworld.com and bye, bye Adsense account.
     

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  10. antonaf

    antonaf Banned

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    #30

    That's not why my account was disabled!

    Those pop-ups are generated from Clicksor ads which I NOW have on my site to replace the Google ads. I never used Clicksor ads before, so no pop-ups ever were generated on my pages, The pop-ups are embedded in the Clicksor ad code. Before my account was disabled I only used Google ads.
     
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  11. Pammer

    Pammer Notable Member

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    #31

    Intersting, thats means Thats type of startagy will use anothers PPC search engine coz when google kick of our accounts, our another steps to joins another PPC search engine services.
     
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  12. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    #32
    That theory is wrong. I would notice right away that there is an unnatural click pattern so I would immediately get in touch with Adsense support to alert them. Happened to Joey not long ago, and he still has his acccount.
     
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  13. antonaf

    antonaf Banned

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    #33
    Part of my problem with this is (in my case) it was the holiday season, therefore I was away on a vacation and I had limited web access. I logged into my account while I was away, but I only checked my earnings...which did not look strange. I didn't have the chance to study my account activity, which I would have done upon return. I understand that Google isn't responsible for the way I log into my account and check my account, but they should at least give me some evidence of wrong doing when disabling my account, so I can dispute the claim. I think as the webmaster I should be provided with the IP addresses, so I can do my own investigation. If someone is out to maliciously harm my business then I think I have the right to know and have the ability to investigate and possibly file a suit. I would like to know, what day? what clicks? what IP addresses? ...who, what, when, where, why, and how??? Should be the answers I should be able to gather from the information Google can provide me. But if their business model is to accuse and NOT share any information or provide evidence of wrongdoing, then so be it. Adsense wasn't the best third-party solution (for me), it was just a reliable/trustworthy source and it filled my ad space. I'm not going to hold the entire Google Corp. responsible, I still like their other services and I'll still buy their stock! I just hope they don't disable my Gmail account because I can't control the number of SPAM I get.
     
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  14. mcfox

    mcfox Wind Maker

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    #34
    Ok, how about Hotbar on another site?
     
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    aeiouy Peon

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    #35
    What about the gambling issue mcfox raised?

    Links to gambling sites is agains the TOS. Seems like you have a lot of potential avenues for why you got banned.
     
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  16. antonaf

    antonaf Banned

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    #36
    As I explained, that has nothing to do with why my account was disabled. Pop-ups didn't exist until after the fact


     
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    FireStorM Well-Known Member

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    #37
    what is really amazing is that many sites put illegal stuffs such as warez etc .. they have run for years and are still making big money through adsense ., and google never sees these warez sites !
     
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    _vlada_ Peon

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    #38
    Google care when loosing money, and when receive complains (and not from all, only "premium complains" are important).

    Type some adult content in google search box and you will see ads!
     
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    MKInfo DP Guard Dog

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    #39
    I've just removed the gambling and casinos catagory from my article site after reading this thread...................................Thanks guys :)
     
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  20. antonaf

    antonaf Banned

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    #40
    WOW!!!
    Google has reinstated me. I just received an email from the appeal I had initially sent. I sent that one email and left it alone, thinking it was a waste of time, but to my surprise they have reinstated my account. I was not expecting this, especially after hearing so many stories of this, but they have REINSTATED me! Google is definitely on the up trend. The only problem, I have become comfortable with the alternate ads and also I'm afraid to put the Google ads on my pages, until I'm sure someone isn't out to get me, because I'm sure if it happens again Google will ban me for good! That, would be my action if I was Google. But, at least I don't have that bad taste in my mouth about Google any longer.



    I LOVE GOOGLE AGAIN!!!
     
    antonaf, Jan 5, 2006 IP