Ads To "Bad Neighborhoods"

The amount of users world wide that use the internet in english is probably still larger for now. I am somewhat familiar with Japanese and Chinese since I have a brother who is fluent in both and has peaked my interest in both countries.

China is growing very rapidly in the internet due to the influx of wealth into China. Japan doesn't compare in size of sheer numbers.

You are right and I am not trying to argue. But for those who use the Co-op english is required if I remember Shawn's update correctly.

 

Plus the costs of high speed Internet or really any Internet connection at all outside of the US really limits the outside growth for the time being.

 

Incorrect again.

Japan has 67,677,947 internet users - the 3rd country in the world for internet users.
China has 87,000,000 internet users - 2nd
Korea - 30,670,000 - 6th
Italy - 28,610,000 - 7th
France - 24,953,347 - 8th
Brazil - 18,660,650 - 10th
Spain - 14,095,951 - 12th

etc. etc.

Most of these will not speak English.

Stats are from NOV. 2004 and nothing is growing online faster than China, India and Easter European Countries!

On the other hand, as we are on an English speaking seo forum and network (coop) obviously English is dominant. I don't know how you can set and use language preferences/restrictions without getting a network weight distribution problem.

Also, as I wrote above, I think the ads validation via google is a good and soon necessary measure.

 

Most of the online users from other countries speak English as well....especially in India.

 

India .... a good percentage maybe.

Most other countries listed above (and many others not listed) - a resounding no.

Also, search engines move more and more towards "local priority searches".
Try a search on google or yahoo in Asia. You will be diverted to the chinese, thai, indian, etc. google/yahoo were local and chinese, thai, indian etc. language websites have priority rankings.

 

Geez, go have a chat somewhere else and stick to the topic.

 

Just becuase there are sites out there in chinese, thai, indian or whatever doesn't make me want to advertise them on my site. I wouldn't take a client that didn't speak English (mainly because I couldn't communicate with them). So why should I have ad's on my site in other languages if I don't want to target that particuliar market?

 

Well, your post really is on topic!!

I've already expressed my oppinion twice regarding the thread topic.

 

As I said above, how would you resolve the network weight distribution for foreign language ads if their are not displayed on English websites?

 

Ban them from the coop if they can't speak English ...no I'm kidding. I guess there really isn't an alternative until the COOP shows more growth in non-English sites. Then the weight distribution could run correctly if the # were high enough.

 

Maybe the non-english websites joining the network should be required to have their network ads written in English.

Otherwise you could have (in theory let's say) an obscene Polish ad in the network linking to a decent looking page on a "dodgy" website ... would you be able to realize that easily? Would you need to check every foreign ad with the dictionary? Would you be willing to display possibly rubish or indecent text on your site without knowing what it is?

 

I would be happy if there was just some consistency in the character sets used for non-english ads. My site uses UTF-8, and has foreign language content, but the adds often show up as garbage because they often use another character set.

 

Wow, this has gone off topic.

 

Well then, what about the ads validation via google? Nobody else has anything to say about that?

The disadvantage is that, as written previously, you wouldn't be able to link to not yet indexed websites. However, that isn't such a big obstacle and I think the network will in the end benefit. Usually you can get a new website indexed by google pretty fast and without much effort anyway. Often even just one link will do.

The question is, for a deep linked coop ad (linking to an internal page on your website) would you need to wait until google has indexed that particular page, or you could create coop ads linking to any page on that domain once the home page has been indexed?

Also, I think it's not the same thing linking to a penalized site (but still in google index) and linking to a banned site.

 

But English is considered the universal language. From Baghdad to Bahrain and almost everywhere else in the world you will see signage (and street signage) in English as well as that of the native land.

I agree that sites should be indexed in Google before being allowed to join the network. Personally, I do not accept any link requests unless the site (and any reciprocal link page) has been indexed by Google, Yahoo, and MSN. New sites with a PR0 are accepted (no gray toolbars please), as long as those pages are indexed.

Implementing this policy should not be considered as a penalty. All that the site owner needs to do is place links in a few directories and Google will pick up the site within a few weeks. It's not like a few hundred co-op links are going to rocket a site to the top of the SERP's right away. We all know that in most circumstances, for competitive KW's, the process takes time.

 

Mandarin Chinese is the "most spoken" language in the world. However, probably 80% of those people speak English as a second language. English is by far the most prominent language in the world. It may not be someone's primary language, but they can speak it. Look at these forums for example. Not everyone here is from the UK or the United States. Many people on these forums are from India. It depends on how you look at it.