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Discussion in 'Co-op Advertising Network' started by digitalpoint, Jan 27, 2005.

  1. #1
    Is anyone able to determine if a specific site is a "bad neighborhood". If it's as simple as it not being in Google's index, I'm thinking of making it so you can only create ads for a page that is already in Google's index.
    SEMrush
     
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  2. petertdavis

    petertdavis Notable Member

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    A rule as simple as not allowing sites that aren't indexed will needlessly penalize new websites.
     
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  3. digitalpoint

    digitalpoint Overlord of no one Staff

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    #3
    Only temporarily though... They could add an ad as soon as they are indexed.
     
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    SEbasic Peon

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    Well, I'd say that sites showing a large number of pages being taken out of the index is a pretty good indication of a bad neighbourhood...

    Unfortunatley that includes a LOT of sites at the moment...

    If PR was dropped from the pages it'd be a good indication too, but there are so many sites out there without any PR that it isn't by any means a fair conclusion to come to.
     
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  5. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    I suggested something along those lines a few weeks ago. Use Google's spam monitoring to determine ad targets. It should get rid of a lot of crap and/or spammy sites.

    Fine with me if the landing site is not indexed. Co-op shouldn't be used as the only linking source anyway so we might as well force the user to get other links first and get their site indexed. Then Google will have a look first to see whether it meets their criteria. If it suits Google's index, it probably suits the network.
     
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    Patient Raider

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    I know this may not be the place but I wonder if you would care to give us your thoughts on /~shawn. Are you thinking there is a remote possibility that bad neighbouhoods could be a potential cause? There are a few of us who have lost sites recently and whilst its likely we will never know why we have a thread here http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=8577 trying to find common factors.
     
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  7. Smyrl

    Smyrl Tomato Republic Staff

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    I recently clicked on coop link and went to page with the gerund form of the f word followed by _pimp. To me this is not a family friendly site.

    Family friendly and bad neighborhood are not exactly the same thing but ...

    Shannon
     
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    chachi The other Jason

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    I think that should be one of the criterion that is used to evaluate sites. This will keep your workload down as well. Getting a site in the G index is as simple as placing a link in your sig here and waiting a few days...so, an argument about it unfairly penalizing a "new" site should not be a concern
     
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    petertdavis Notable Member

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    Actually, I'd say that content like that might indicate a bad neighborhood. I wouldn't want Google to think any of my sites are linking to porn, even if it was a 'white hat', if there is such a thing.
     
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    crew Peon

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    #10
    "I wouldn't want Google to think any of my sites are linking to porn"

    Google is not a Puritan. I'm sure they are not offended by links to pages with the f-bomb.
     
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    rtheodorow Peon

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    I know what Smyrl is talking about....I have had a few "shady" ad's pop-up on my site. I love the coop, don't get me wrong, but I want to maintain a professional presence to my customers on my website.

    I would absolutly LOVE if the coop had detailed categories with links to supporting content for our sites rather than LOWER YOUR MORTGAGE | VITAMINS | USED CARS | GREAT VACATION RENTALS | AND THEN SOMETHING NOT IN ENGLISH THAT NOBODY EVEN KNOWS WHAT IT SAYS :).
     
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    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    English isn't even the most spoken language in the world I believe and you know where WWW stands for don't you?
     
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    Bernard Well-Known Member

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  14. chachi

    chachi The other Jason

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    well, I for one would like to see english only ads on my sites.
     
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    petertdavis Notable Member

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    English is BY FAR the most spoken language in the world.

    Same here.
     
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    maha Well-Known Member

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    Incorrect.. English is NOT the most spoken language in the world. It's actually 3rd behind Spanish. See here:

    http://www.krysstal.com/spoken.html

    Chinese is spoken almost 3 times more than English.
     
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    zamolxes Peon

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    Incorrect! Mandarin Chinese is by far the most spoken language in the world.

    I for one think it's a good idea to have an ads validation (via Google) system in place. I know for a fact that you can find entire threads dedicated to the coop network on black hat seo forums and more and more "dodgy" sites join it every day. Validating the ads via google would offer at least some sort of protection.
     
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    Well, the point of my original arguement wasn't so much that English is the MOST popular language. Obviosuly, DigitalPoint.com is written in English and over 99% of posts on this forum seem to be in English as well.

    I am saying a language option would be nice where people that don't use English ad's can have seperate links shown in their preferred language.......
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    I would have to say that english is probably the most popular language amongst internet users. (for now)

    Also, with everyone adding the word p o r n to there posts you may end up making digitalpoint a bad neighborhood!!
     
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    zamolxes Peon

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    Again you underestimate China, Japan, France, Spain, Italy, Korea, Brazil, etc.

    However we digress again. This thread was about automatically validating ads.
     
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