Adblock - Is it moral to use it?

Discussion in 'Pay Per Click Advertising' started by Tobias, Dec 17, 2007.

  1. #1
    Okay, I'm faced with a dilemma.

    As a web developer, I hate adblock. I think that it's a profit-killing-evil-contraption. However, as a web user, I find that adblock is a great thing which can save me the needless trouble of looking at sites that are plastered to the knees with advertisments.

    I ask, is it truly moral to use adblock? For one, you're stopping people from earning hard-earned money from their website and it could effectively be classified as stealing.

    However, on the other hand, advertisments are the scourge of the internet - as they deface many websites and the flashing colours of them could drive a person mad.

    What do you guys think?

    Ps: Some websites have gone as far as blocking Firefox entirely to stop adblockers.
     
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  2. rcj662

    rcj662 Guest

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    It is your choice. It is not imoral if you do not want to see ads that is your choice. Your going to site to find info they are suppose list not ads for it.
     
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    firefox just sucks with flash ads.if you use firefox, you kinda have to use adblock.
     
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    I use adblock plus with firefox - I see nothing immoral about it. It's brilliant.
     
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    GTAce Notable Member

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    #5
    Blocking ads is stealing from a website. Ads are placed on a website so that the website can actually exist. If everybody were to block the ads on a website, that website would very likely go down.

    If you think that the ads on a website are just too intrusive for your liking, then DON'T VISIT THE WEBSITE, but do not block the ads and continue to leech their resources and information. By blocking the ads on a website, you are ultimately saying "I like this website and want to take advantage of it, but I don't want to support it and keep it running"

    How many people out there make a living off of Adsense? A bunch of them do...Imagine what would happen if they could no longer do that because their users didn't respect their hard work.

    Webmasters should know better than to use adblock ;)
     
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    cobracrk Banned

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    Well, those ads are the payment for your service.
    So, by using adblock you should not have the right to enter that site.
    Ofcourse it's immoral, as you're tricking someone, you're using their services but you don't pay for them...

    I agree with pop-up blockers, as a user and a web developer, pop-ups just suck... my opinion./..
     
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    I don't put pop-ups on my website either, cobracrk...but again, if somebody puts pop-ups on their website, they do it for a reason. They are doing it in order to support the website. When you block pop-ups, you are denying them that right. Whether you are blocking text links, banners, or pop-ups, ad blocking is ad blocking. It's all the same.

    If you don't like pop-ups, then don't visit websites that use pop-ups, but don't block pop-ups on a website that you continue to visit. That's disrespectful to the owner.
     
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    Doesn't matter. If a webmaster overuses the word "advertisements" and places 5 - 6 per page, then you have every right to block his/her ads for multiple reason. What if the site is powered by its users - by donating? There's no need to have advertisements, so block em.

    You can continue to visit the website - there's no reason no too, after all, you're one out of many visitors that are always visiting the website, so it doesn't matter if one person blocks advertisements or not.

    Pop-ups are disrespectful to the visitors.
     
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    Get real. 'Don't block pop-ups or ads' pffft!

    You're just worried about adblock plus because you run azoogle, and your right to be worried because it's highly effective.
     
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    No, if a webmaster overuses ads, then you should just leave the site. You don't have the right to block them and continue visiting. If you're going to visit a website, deal with the ads. If you can't do that, then the website sucks, leave.

    Websites have ads on them for a reason. You, as the user, are not in the position to determine whether or not a website needs ads. Few websites are supported 100% by donations, but many websites do receive them.

    hahahaha, this reasoning is ridiculous. You are admitting that it would be wrong if everybody did it, but it's okay if you do it. :rolleyes:

    If you think so, then don't give websites the pleasure of your visit

    I hate pop-ups, and I don't visit websites that use them...Those webmasters should know better. If they were to remove the pop-ups, they'd receive more visitors

    You obviously know nothing about Azoogle, because I'm not affected at all by adblockers through Azoogle....100% of my visitors could use adblockers and my revenue would remain unchanged.
     
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    Question:If a person is using adblock does the website still get to count them as a visitor for ad programs which pay per number of unique impressions?

    As for using it, I use it and will continue to use it. I often don't go back to places which have multiple gaps in the page where ads should be. I primarily started using it as a SIM I play has an abundance of ads "to support their game" not just for the regular users but for players who pay to play. As someone who pays $30-90 a year to play its my right to block their quacking, beeping, buzzing ads. And I don't need to help my erection, thanks, I'm a girl. Not to mention you can't know until you load a site if they have ads or not. So by having ad-block off you risk getting spyware from ads, popups locking your browser or even crashing it. Running a windows system adblock gives me another line of defense against viruses and spyware/malware. There are still plenty of people using IE that don't have adblock and poor pop-up blockers. If you're going to try and leech off me by placing ads all over then I'm going to block them and not be back anyway.
     
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    #12
    This is the internet. You don't need to leave a site just because it has advertisements. You can continue to visit.

    Well, as the user, I am allowed to block ads - or browse the sites with ads. Some ads are known to put spyware on your computer, so I have every right to protect my computer from that crap.

    So, your saying pop-ups are fine to have on a website? What if you were searching something and you got hit by 50 pop-ups just from one website - and it had information that you needed and no website besides that selected one had the information that you needed - then what?
     
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    #13
    The point is, if you think a website has too many ads for you to deal with, then what do you do? You leave...I see no other valid answer.

    Wrong answer. That's what software like Ad-aware is for

    There is plenty of software out there that protects your computer from spyware without blocking ads ;)

    Bad example, when has that ever happened to you? No website is going to be the #1 source for content with those kind of pop-ups
     
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    Honestly saying Adblock is imoral is like saying you should have to code for all browsers. Nothing is illegal and so long as we have that freedom people will use it. The very same reason why Tivo and DVRs are popular, you can skip the ads. People don't like ads, whether they are necessary or not. Yes they pay for TV, internet, etc but thats not the consumers worry, its the network or site owner. Its up to you to maximize your profits and use campaigns that are marketable for your site, not mine to view your ads and click. I never click on links, I don't trust redirects from most sites. Unless its owned by a major company I'm not clicking, so you're not losing much if I don't view the ad in the first place.
     
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    Exactly. Tivo is the best. No commericals. I only support webmasters who are using the ad companies that I'm using - if not, then I don't care about supporting their websites.

    That's what ad block is for too.:rolleyes:
     
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    FWIW, Admuncher is a lot better at this - sites like The Register look like they were designed perfectly ad-free.

    As for the "morality" debate - pfft. Next people will will be telling me its "immoral" to hit Mute when adverts come on the TV. Forced ad-viewing is brand damage - you'd think the marketeers around here would get the concept.

    Block away! Block my ads, I don't care - as long as my content is spreading, I gain...
     
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    At the end of the day those people that use ad blockers are not likely to click on ads anyway.... the general internet user is really the person you should be targeting when using ads.

    Webmasters are switched on and most won't click an ad simply because they know the website owner will profit from it.
     
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    Nobody is completely blind to ads, nobody...and that includes people who use ad blockers

    And you do realize that all ads do not need to be clicked to generate revenue, right?
     
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    ahhhh yes of course. But ads should only be clicked if the user is genuinely interested in the offer, not because they are generating revenue for the site.
     
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    I agree. I'm just saying that while you say that people with ad blockers are not likely to click...It's just that, they're not likely to click, but nobody is ever completely blind to ads. Everybody is susceptible to ads, including those who hate them. When you use an ad blocker, you completely throw the possibility of clicking out the window...but without one, at least that possibility exists.

    I don't consider myself to be someone who pays any attention to ads at all, but I know for a fact that I have clicked some before.
     
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