Account Disabled Today

Well, yes Fryman, as I said, many are cheaters but some I am sure are not. I am certainly not defending the cheaters who have some plea to click on their ads, hidden text or some kind of bot clicking away on their ads and I have seen some complaints here where I think, yeah right buddy and click off again.

And Lorien, maybe this guy is a bum, but maybe he is not. If not, then maybe he is angry as hell and I imagine he could think of worse things to call Google right now.

And Guyfrom Chicago, I imagine to a great extent the bans are handed out based on a variety of triggers. Perhaps they are right 95% of the time and that is cool. But if the 5% innocent have no-one to plead their case with except an automated robot, isn´t that a bit harsh?

 

Nope... the interest of the majority rules over the others. If google sees something that raises a flag, might as well bann in order to protect the advertisers interests. We are talking about money here, and Google's whole business is based on the trust they get from Adwords advertisers.

I would never think it could be 5%, I wouldn't even think it is 1%, it must be either a non-existent amount, or one so small it can be considered worthless.

 

It might be. I would rather they ban a few legit accounts by accident or in error than to go to easy on people and let the scammers scam on. If Adsense has one weakness it's fraud. A few bad apples could ruin it for everyone.

Do you know any well known, established webmasters who have a proven track record who have been banned? I don't.

 

Even if they're ALL wrong, which is also just as likely, a form of explanation would still be nice so if anyone else is violating it in the same way without knowing, the rest of us could check to make sure we're not violating the ToS the same way.

I'm just gonna cross my fingers at this point.

 

That's an interesting point, GuyFromChicago. All the cases of banned crybabies I have seen here are from people that joined the forum just to be able to whine about their bann. Seems that they got caught and first thing they do is go to Google and search for some forum about adsense so they can post their case and see if they can get out of the hole they dug

 

Play by the rules and don't try and scam the system and you'll be ***fine.***

***fine = 99.9999999999999% of the time*****

 

Exactly. I'll start getting concerned when Shawn posts about his account getting banned. Joe blow who had been in Adsense for 3 weeks and got banned doesn't worry me one bit.

 

I have no doubt that at least 95% of the time G are correct. What does intrigue me is that every single person I've heard of that has gotten banned has had the same email.
Now I know (and have said many times) that 'illegal clicks' covers every single instance of TOS non compliance. But, for a company like Google, I consider it pretty shitty business practise not to give follow up reasons when requested.
The majority of people banned know exactly why they were banned, but for those that don't surely it's no great hardship to tell them the actual reason.

BTW Lorien, iirc G has already said that putting images above the ads isn't in breach of TOS. Personally I don't do it, because it would look stupid on my pages - but not any more stupid than a nice big rectangle with only one ad in it.

I can only imagine the words that I would use to descibe G if they banned me. As far as I'm aware, all my sites are 100% above board and anything I have queries on I've email G about and gotten reasonable answers pdq, but I'll feel one heck of a lot happier when I see that first payment actually come through. I've worked like heck over the last couple of months to see my adsense earnings approaching $25 per day and I'm sure that should I see a 'illegal clicks' email then the air in my house will turn blue.

 

Can't say I've ever looked that closely, but you're right. I can't think of anyone (respected on these boards) saying that they've been banned.

 

jlawrence, there are specific TOS and guidelines for Adsense users, if you get banned you just need to read them again to find out why.

Why would google have to give any explanation at all to some crook or TOS violator? Kick them in the butt and tell them to get a hike.

 

Well i dunno whats the story with these bannings, would be ragin if it happened to me. Would be a shame if it was just google being bitchy as i feel microsoft & co wud probably pound them into the ground with so many disgruntled users. Search engines rely on popularity, banning ppl for no reason (if thats true) is not going to help their cause. Microsoft would be a lot more laid back about these things methinks...


Actually i see casino ads on your jeep site there, google don't allow promotion of gambling (would i be right in that?), perhaps thats why u were banned.

 

WTF are you talking about? What does Microsoft even have to do with our discussion???

 

I can certainly imagine that there are people out there that have had their accounts closed and have actually no idea what they did wrong - if indeed they themselves actually did anything wrong. I'm not saying give explanations to the crooks and fraudsters, but there are people out there that actually won't have a clue what they did.
Kick them in the butt and tell them to get a hike. --- That sounds remarkably like what paypal used to do with various people's accounts. It was wrong then and it's wrong now.

 

Microsoft have more disgruntled users than any other company I've ever heard of
What will be interesting is when they finally get around to driving decent amounts of traffic through their search engine and they then introduce their own version of adsense.
But hey, guess what, they'll still be banning people just like Google does.

 

No, it is not wrong, and I already told you why, they are protecting the advertisers interests.

And if you get banned and say you have no idea of what you did wrong, you are just fooling yourself.

 

bah. microsoft planning their own adsense thingy in response to googles, i would say its fairly relevant to the discussion. bah.

 

bah, who cares about what microsoft is planning to do in 2 years? They can't even get their search engine to work. Bah, we are discussing Google's adsense program, in case you didn't notice. bah.

 

Fryman, go and lie down, sweetie. You are sounding a wee bit over-heated. Okay, yes, baddies need to be plucked out BY the programme but you really don´t accept that there may occasionally be innocent bystanders hurt in the latest techy net? I do realise that these bad apples need to be plucked out, but I don't like that there is no court you can put your case to to be reconsidered, should your site be picked in the latest development that nobody understands.

 

lol... isn't this why forums are meant for? To have these kind of discussions? Although last thing I need is some guy hijacking the thread and talking about unrelated Microsoft stuff, the only person allowed to hijack my thread is Sitetutor, and boy does he have experience in that field....

Since I finally got a chance of talking about something related to webmasters instead of something as "interesting" as Nintendo's new song, why not enjoy it?

 

Okay Fry, go for it. Just bear in mind that it´s not fair to paint everybody with the baddie brush, okay.