About Google’s “anti paid link” campaign

Discussion in 'Directories' started by dsakella, May 15, 2007.

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  1. malcolm1

    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    #21
    I think that matt cutts already explained that hes not worried about
    paid directory reviews as they count as a VOTE in the serps and its
    a human vote so its a review and in a sense we are just used like a filter
    by google... and depending on what we vote to allow in will reflect
    what PR we get in not so many words by matt.... if i understood correctly.

    thx
    malcolm
     
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    Jim4767 Prominent Member

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    #22
    I agree with that entirely, Malcolm. In fact, I closed my earlier post with the tiny type indicating so. ;)
     
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    dvduval Notable Member

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    #23
    I understand there are things that google is doing to serve their self interest, and actions that protect PageRank from being manipulated also create a greater need for Adwords (or other advertising).

    Whether we like it or not, google is going to be looking for sites that are attempting to maipulate pagerank or search results. I think there is an acceptable level activity in their eyes. They seem to be okay with directories, and surely sites that are in directories get some pagerank as a result, and google seems fine with that.

    I think they are especially looking for sites that buying links on high pagerank sites to manipulate pagerank. They may not ban these sites, but they may start discounting the effects of purchases links when it is apparent.

    I'm not making judgement about what they should be doing ethically. I'm just stating what seems to be the case here. As directory owners it is important we study what works best, and be careful to avoid activities that could hurt us.
     
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    #24
    Not bad David - I am already on that line. One can buy site-wide to 50 sites and can get its yahoo backlinks--+ Google links jump like a belle. But G might not look it kindly. So it is better to submit to directories and get only few links.
     
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    #25

    Yeah I do love Google, because I know how to optimize for Google and avoid doing any Adwords advertising. My clients stay happy because they have good rankings and make money from those rankings. Google really has it in for us.
     
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    #26
    It's Google's PR (as in public relations) coup. They have us all stressing about one metric, even though it's not even an accurate one since it's usually out of date, because it's the one aspect of their algorithm that they make public. You've got to wonder why they don't suppress this information altogether. That would put a spanner in the works for websites which base the price of their links on toolbar PR.

    I'm not saying how much of a boost, though. That's what some people are selling, but it doesn't necessarily follow that you get what you pay for.
     
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    dsakella Peon

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    #27
    All I am saying is that someone can't just invent a method, on which a big part of internet economy is based, make it public, promote it and suddenly, after most people start investing on it, change it and say that this is bad. What is wrong with me having a high PR link? If I get the high PR webmaster put a link to my site, that means I have something worth of it. If I had a PR 9 site, I wouldn't put just any link on it.
    And what's wrong with buying links and buying your way up the results? Isn't this the way the whole global market works? After all, the one who invests the most money gets the best site. Why couldn't he buy the best links, and the best results?
    If google wants to do something, they could just remove the PR from public, and keep it for themselves, so that they know which is the best site and do what ever they want with it, without having all people paying on something that we don't know how it works.
     
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    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    #28
    I can agree to an extent as i feel i should be allowed to buy what i want from whom i want to reach the top of the results faster...
    If joe blow allows it the why not? I mean if he loses his PR for being a fool then thats on him right?

    Well the problem comes in when you have a casino site or viagra site showing up everywhere its not supposed to... in irrelevant places just cause that high PR site linked with it... hence it makes for spam.. as their algo cant decipher whats right and whats wrong....
    am i a google supporter? NO not at all..... but like matt commented its my job to clean it up if not his job is in danger so i can see were hes coming from + it would just compliment adwords so why not kill 2 birds with 1 stone?...

    thx
    malcolm
     
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    jl255 Well-Known Member

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    #29
    actually, a good point was made somewhere in this long post.... y wld G want to reveal PageRanks?? If their purpose is to refine the SERPs such that only the most relevant and quality sites get listed first, then they shld just hide the PR values and only they know. So, NO-ONE will be involved in link-buying.....

    makes me wonder......
     
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    #30
    Always enjoy reading your posts malcomb.
    You have a good way of organizing your thoughts as well as keeping forum threads on topic. :)
     
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