Abortion, Good- Bad

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by diarmuid, May 30, 2007.

  1. livingearth

    livingearth Well-Known Member

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    #121
    Out of curiousity...
    Could each person arguing here please post how many "kills" they have made to date?
     
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  2. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #122
    Dude. That is post of the month!!! :D

    I was actually going to say that also it should be the womans choice, but no doubt some idiot (GTech??) will put an Oh No Reilly "spin" on it and say that I am just agreeing with you. :rolleyes:

    You summed up the reasons a whole lot better than I would have done.
     
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    GMROCKS Active Member

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    #123
    I believe that the choice is made when you have unprotected sex.

    whether you're under "the influence" or not, it's still your fault.
     
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    Toopac Peon

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    #124
    Haha that's funny, current score for me is -1, my influence saved one child today (not online either)
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #125
    What kind of dummy listens to you? :confused::D
     
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    #126
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  7. rgordon83

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    #127
    key words there are "possibly" since when do you decide to kill something b/c there is a chance it could have a bad life? it could also "possibly" have very very good life. Who are you to make that choice???
     
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    ichigo Well-Known Member

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    #128
    no good in it. only if its going to save a life ....
     
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  9. rgordon83

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    #129
    2 things:
    1. you are not arguing that abortion should only be legal in caseas of rape. You said you a re pro abortion. That means in all cases. so you can't base your defense on one specific case b/c it then inavlidates all cases besides that one case

    2. since when is a fetus "not fully alive". How can you determine at what point something is fully alive or not. Is it fully alive 5 minutes before it leaves the whomb? what about then it's half way out? As far as i am concerned things that have a heartbeat and need oxygen and nutrients to continue living are fully alive. If it wasn't fully alive then it would be dead. there isn't an im between.

    If someone got shot and they were bleeding to death and were on the verge of death, would you just shoot them in the head? would that person be more alive than a fetus?
     
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  10. rgordon83

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    #130
    that is a selfish thing to say. Once you have a baby in you it is not jus "your" body anymore. so you have to share it. According to your logic you should be able to smoke crack, drink, and smoke when you are pregnant b/c it is your body so who cares if you deform your baby...

    the logic i am seeing from pro-choice people on here is very narrow thus far. and i used to be pro choice at when point when i thought i was an "idealist" then i opened my eyes...
     
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    #131
    And WHO are you to make the choice for other people? :rolleyes:
     
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    #132
    since when can you kill something b/c of an accident. That's life, S*** happens. that doesn't mean you can kill someone....
     
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    #133
    agreed here. if the mother is in danger then i can see why it could be considered
     
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    #134
    You don't even realise they make the choice when they open their legs, just like you make the choice to post rubbish everytime you type:D
     
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    #135
    again, since when are you to decide what is unfair. i have a friend who was born when his parents were 53. His parents are still alive and they have a great relationship. Also, a kids parents can die young no matter when he was born. why is it up to you to decide to kill the baby? More poor logic here...
     
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    #136
    1st paragraph: that is like saying a comunist government does not need to supply it's country with food b/c the country belongs to the government so who cares about everyone else. The fact is there are certain sitautions where people are responsible for other people. being pregnant is one of the. Your body might be yours, but your baby's body is your baby's and you can't just kill it b/c you want to neglet your responsibilities

    2nd paragraph: The problem with that logic is that the people who are getting the abortions are not the republican trailer trash, they are the democrat liberals....
     
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    #137
    a birthed child could also not live if it's mother didn't nurse it. Does that mean a mom can starve it's born baby and touch luck for the baby b/c the mom doesn't want to feed it? flawed logic here....
     
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    #138
    Do you even read the BS that you post? :rolleyes: What a communist government got to do with individual right over their body? If we start deciding over other people's body, where does it stop? Can we castrate you and toopac because it is not beneficial for the society to allow dummies to reproduce? :D
     
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    #139
    who is the 16 year old mother in that case to make such a big choice about killing a baby. If you fault her for her age and say that leads here to her poor choices about having sex, then surely she is not a good choicemake and should not be allwed to make an even more serious descision of killing her baby....
     
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    #140
    it has to do with it b/c the logic of that post says whoever is in the position to make a choice that will harm someone else has that right b/c they controll the situation. so according to that logic, anyone in a position of controll and authority can make whatever choice is best for them based on their own needs no matter what it sdoes to someone else. The communist government was just an example of asimilar scenario where everyone would say that would be so cruel...
     
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