Two doctors have been charged with murder for providing late-term abortions. It's really sad. When they arrested them, they discovered 35 late-term fetuses in their freezer. One of them they estimated at about 36 weeks, that's 9 months!! Source: Associated Press
36 months is kinda ridiculous, it is a nearly formed baby. Glad that they have been arrested to face the music. Such late term abortions are dangerous to both mother and baby alike.
Oops, I don't mean that, I mean doing abortion at 36 weeks is ridiculous (Edited after reminder from Spolitdiva, I am getting old...)
Me too. On a side note: I don't think they know for sure, but the general consensus is that a fetus starts feeling pain at about 20 weeks.
Aborting a 9 month's old fetus? It's not a fetus anymore, it's a baby..... They should arrest the mother too.. This is sick.
It depends what you mean by "feel". If you mean responds to damaging stimuli then that's no more profound than a plants reaction to having a leaf pulled off. The developmental stage at which abortions should be carried out up until is a tricky one. While we don't know at which point an embryo/foetus becomes a "person" we do know that at 2 weeks it isn't and at 9 months it is. It's like having a picture of a child and a picture of a man, you can easily identify which is the child and which is the adult, but with no amount of intermediate pictures could you identify when the former became the later. The question isn't whether abortions should be carried out, the question is at which point should they be prohibited, which is a distinction that needs to be adressed, rather than the emotional rhetoric that usually accompanies these discussions.
It doesn't take much effort to do all that without any pain ( does not mean that that effort was taken though ). If that fetus was healthy, i'd agree with murder charges. If not-- that was a favor to the fetus/baby, first and foremost. In any case scenario there are way too many people already, population needs to be controlled even if it takes such scary looking doctors like that black woman from the story
Feeling of pain is connected with the development of a certain part of a brain, that's all. 20 weeks sounds right.
My bad. I was incorrect to say that fetal pain at 20 weeks is the general consensus. Apparently, it's controversial at what point a fetus can feel pain, depending on what study you read, and for some, whether you're biased "pro choice" or "pro life". But this article indicates the two extremes, some that believe it's at the 20th week, and some that don't believe they're capable until the 29th week. The part I placed in bold, that's probably answered philosophically by many, rather than scientifically. What would be your requirement to be considered a person?
I'm not sure, in the same way i'm not sure what atributes are required to be considered an adult, biologically speaking. Though I can still say that a zygote isn't a person with as much certainty as i can say a 3 year old isn't an adult.
Right. Even though a zygote has the potential, I wouldn't view it as a person. I was looking at this, a week by week list of development. Just my personal view, but I think at about 10 weeks, it seems more like a person.
That's very evil. To think that they still aborted a nine-month old baby. Abortion is some place in the world in actually legal, but it takes some consideration first before an abortion is made. I personally think that abortion is really evil. Glad that those evil doctors are arrested, but still, many doctors are doing the same too.
At 10 weeks it could probably be identified by most people as being the embryo of a human. But i think what it looks like is the least important criteria for determining what is a person. Unless it has a cognitive capacity it's just a growth of cells. though until we are certain i'd limit abortions to 10 weeks. Excess of two months is long enough to become aware of a pregnancy and decide if you want to go through with it, or have an abortion.