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A Warning to All DPers: Save Your Money

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by xmcp123, Mar 31, 2008.

  1. clinton

    clinton Well-Known Member

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    #41
    I downloaded a few that gave me some ideas.
     
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    xmcp123 Peon

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    #42
    Yes. They're utter bullshit. And generally anything even borderlining on decent are ideas taken from people smarter than the author that have either been commonplace for years, or are freely available elsewhere
    There's a difference between hype and completely lies. I can't wait for the day someone finally sues one of these bullshit authors.
    But were they advertising they'd "give you ideas"?
    No. I'll bet they promised the world. And I'll bet most of the buyers believed them.
     
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    Kerunai Active Member

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    #43
    personally it's all been hyped up...and if it says make $100 every bullshit hour or day...it's not as consistent like that especially for Noobs ...$100 per day with no work ??? come on .... This is not DP standard at all...heck i do make $400 - 800 per day but heck i will not spread it all over... and i lost respect to all those lame guru's that tells you that bla bla bla..why KFC or McDonalds do hide their recipe and why they don't and why they're willing to share...share their ass, that's what they do..

    hey...just use simple logic..why would i reveal a secret that will get more people into it and pushing SERP, raising PPC cost and spreading the money out that big ??? simple logic that you don;t have to go to University to understand..

    and what's more ?? once u entered that damn niche/program/formula...by that time it was sooo saturated by dumbhead aka fast movers....and you will be sitting in front of your PC hoping that the 'so called system' will work...thrust me i've tried everything on this planet since 2003 and let me saya this to you..just learn the basics and start doing something that you can achieve , easy...

    so if 10000000000 people are creating blogs, u wants to create blogs too ??thats why rich IM gets richer and poor IM gets poorer...they follow others and not focusing on what they can practically achieve and are scalable..

    and the good news is : the damn report sells so well everytime, sometime i thought it's not from people but goats paying for it....sorry i'm not pointing this to anybody here but this has to end...sorry for those who are offended by what i'm trying to say but ...be profesional plzz...and stop lying...why do you lie for money ?>?? yes..80% sales letter is manipulating, misleading and simple to say : IT IS A LIE !!!! Liar !!!

    did you really believe they will share 100% of their secret ?? 10% is for sympathy and money i think ..
     
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    thsadmin Notable Member

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    #44
    Yes most the ideas are known by others and are freely available elsewhere, but that's the same as blogs and websites .... only difference is that it's in another format and instead of making money from ad's on their site, they choose to sell an ebook for profit .... if someone's willing to do some work and re-word the content then that's fine with me.

    Yes but not all are based on lies or BS, some are based on fact or others experience - be it there own or others.

    Not all are trying to sell a get rich scheme, if they are then the target audience can smell BS and avoid them.
     
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  5. clinton

    clinton Well-Known Member

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    #45
    Yeah, and most of these ideas you get on the internet for free in a blog LOL, so I pretty much wasted my money:( 99.9% e-books are bs

    And ofcourse, we got suckered into buying e-books that promised us 150,000 a month etc. It looks like something exclusive way to make money, how could you loose? But we all learned, some later than others. Now we can dismiss the bull shit and continue with the real stuff.

    Thanks for bringing up this point:)
     
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    machinegun87 Peon

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    #46
    This is one of the best post I have read in DP.

    It really makes sense and I would have stickied it if I were a MOD.
    Every newbie trying to grab a share in the internet should be forced to read this!

    As for me, even I have wasted tons of cash buying the stupid ebooks that have NOT made me a single cent, which promised me of making $1000 a day!
    *bah*
     
    machinegun87, Apr 1, 2008 IP
  7. Nathan_Johnson

    Nathan_Johnson Peon

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    #47
    Are there crap e-books out there? Yes, plenty. More are crap than are good, but
    I've learned some wonderful things from e-books. Saying that they're all crap, is
    short-sided view, in my opinion.
     
    Nathan_Johnson, Apr 1, 2008 IP
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    xmcp123 Peon

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    #48
    I would say most are.
    99% probably.
    And I wouldn't call it one-sided. I read many(free, I won't fund these guys) before writing this, because I wanted to make sure I was right. And almost every single one came back as....crap.
    Rule of Thumb: If you see a "$" anywhere in the title or description (or god forbid more than one "$"), it's bullcrap.

    Once again, I'm not speaking out of my butt here. I know there are guys who make a lot more than me out there, but I make more than I need, and I'm pretty damn sure I do much better than most of these ebook guys.
     
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  9. Lastbutnotleast

    Lastbutnotleast Peon

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    #49
    Are you joking?

    I guess you do not spend a lot of time on DP

    I learnt some good tips in DP in many interesting posts about the real things of internet : softwares, SEO, wordpress, PPC...
     
    Lastbutnotleast, Apr 1, 2008 IP
  10. clinton

    clinton Well-Known Member

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    #50
    It's April first, so lets make it a point not to be fools:D

    Loosing out on e-books opened my eyes to the lies that are constantly being circulated on the internet.

    Working hard, trying over and over, learning(your mind is your most valuable asset) and staying focused is the only way to ever be successful at any thing.
     
    clinton, Apr 1, 2008 IP
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    argothiusz Well-Known Member

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    #51
    - I knew that..haha #1 reason why I never buy a single ebook because most likely that printing machine is overpopulated or gonna get busted soon. :)
     
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    xmcp123 Peon

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    #52
    I hate to break it to you, but a fair piece of the SEO info on DP is just blatantly wrong. Not all of it, but yeah. More than there should be. Normally by wannabe SEOs trying to confuse/get clients.
    Amen!
     
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    Lastbutnotleast Peon

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    #53
    xmpxp123, if DP content is so bad, why are you there?

    At least you promote 3 links
     
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    xmcp123 Peon

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    #54
    1)It's not all bad. Every so often I find something good. But a lot of it is utter bull.

    2)Because when I need labor(web design/data entry/cheap content writing) this is a good place to be to get it.

    I don't rely on this place as a knowledge base. More as a work force.
    I post in threads because...why not.
    And this one is just because I think it's disgusting what these fake "gurus" are doing to so many people here.
     
    xmcp123, Apr 1, 2008 IP
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    rikat Well-Known Member

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    #55
    thanks for the wake-up call... + rep added :eek:
     
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  16. ErnestHemingway

    ErnestHemingway Well-Known Member

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    #56
    I disagree with you.
    Read some Jay Abraham, Dan kennedy and other great marketing guys work. Then post this.
    Looks like you don't buy much there are some working methods and some do share it.
    I know few DP'ers that got REAL MONEY making method and they wont sell it for less than 5-10k
    and it works.

    I know some people are just scamming and spamming around but there are legit ones
    and you shouldn't just judge people because you think they are junk, or because you think
    you are some uber guy and you know everything. There are honest dealers as well around DP
    and try to be objective than telling people go buy Xrumer, because I can bring you PROs from
    CERT.org that will give you honest review about xrumer and how it sucks.

    Lastly your POST SMELLS Promotion of Xrumer, I have got 10-20k "sample comments" if you would like to see, people who advertise in your style..
     
    ErnestHemingway, Apr 1, 2008 IP
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    clinton Well-Known Member

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    #57
    Holy crap! Thats a good point, I never heard it phrased like that before.

    People are constantly getting rid of thier old money machines, because lately, it's been printing less and less:D
     
    clinton, Apr 1, 2008 IP
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    Boulder Well-Known Member

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    #58
    So... If you are such the bad ass black hat, as you claim to be in first post.

    Why not write up your own ebook and put your bad ass tricks and BH methods in it? Than you could make money legitimately and not have to use such unorthodoxed techniques.

    So what makes a black hatter so much better than an ebook peddler? Sounds a bit hypothetical to me.. But than, I personally hate all the junk spam comments I keep getting on my blogs.. Them darn BH's.. LOL

    Boulder
     
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  19. ErnestHemingway

    ErnestHemingway Well-Known Member

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    #59
    Yo blackhat UBER PRO pwner guy
    here is what i got for you. Just to STOP that moving fast sizzling tongue of yours.
    I will show you real working method that makes real cash.
    What you gonna give back?
    How about you put 40-50k CASH bet thru escrow. Bcoz I cant waste my time for nothing, just to show you there are working methods and YOU SHOULD BE OBJECTIVE.
    I wanna hear back UBER PRO Black hat guy soon..

    BTW I been working with CERT for years and I HAVE SEEN GOD LIKE hackers and coders, I never heard anyone of them say WE ARE PROS we CAN PWN any box..
     
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    tmikuckis Active Member

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    #60
    very true. If someone knows how to make a bunch of money online, they arn't going to sell you an ebook to tell you how, they're gonna use that method to make a bunch of money themselves.
     
    tmikuckis, Apr 1, 2008 IP